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		<title>By: greg</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamhoststatus.com/2007/04/30/looney-server-move/#comment-35082</link>
		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 19:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now... when you guys make a "move," does this involve several people bringing their parent's minivans and such and unplugging all the cables and putting them into boxes and carrying them out the door by hand or do you guys have something more sophisticated than that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now&#8230; when you guys make a &#8220;move,&#8221; does this involve several people bringing their parent&#8217;s minivans and such and unplugging all the cables and putting them into boxes and carrying them out the door by hand or do you guys have something more sophisticated than that?</p>
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		<title>By: eh&#124;o</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamhoststatus.com/2007/04/30/looney-server-move/#comment-33741</link>
		<dc:creator>eh&#124;o</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 07:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@micah

well zip-ity doo dahhhh

how abouts you's smarty pants west coast  folks    take e a snappy sy shot of starbuckos and forget about telling us poor suckers  whats about tt to take paplace 'eh? --surfs up snapper heads 

snapper heads

I like it
snapper yapper do Josh o  yeah   more dream(gg)host! yeah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@micah</p>
<p>well zip-ity doo dahhhh</p>
<p>how abouts you&#8217;s smarty pants west coast  folks    take e a snappy sy shot of starbuckos and forget about telling us poor suckers  whats about tt to take paplace &#8216;eh? &#8211;surfs up snapper heads </p>
<p>snapper heads</p>
<p>I like it<br />
snapper yapper do Josh o  yeah   more dream(gg)host! yeah</p>
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		<title>By: Yvo</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamhoststatus.com/2007/04/30/looney-server-move/#comment-32962</link>
		<dc:creator>Yvo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 14:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Siddiqui</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamhoststatus.com/2007/04/30/looney-server-move/#comment-32958</link>
		<dc:creator>Siddiqui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 14:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi

Whats goin on with the MySQL Server, its creating problem for me 
and many of my dunamic scripts aren't running fine.... ??
I am unable to perform any operation using root user ????????

when it will be up ?


regards,
Siddiqui</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi</p>
<p>Whats goin on with the MySQL Server, its creating problem for me<br />
and many of my dunamic scripts aren&#8217;t running fine&#8230;. ??<br />
I am unable to perform any operation using root user ????????</p>
<p>when it will be up ?</p>
<p>regards,<br />
Siddiqui</p>
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		<title>By: micah</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamhoststatus.com/2007/04/30/looney-server-move/#comment-32860</link>
		<dc:creator>micah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 22:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Pam

To clarify, I meant cluster as a logical grouping of MySQL, Web, Mail, and file servers. It's not necessarily the most accepted use of the word but it's the vernacular around here. I apologize for any confusion the term causes.

@re eh&#124;o

Actually the issue is that we're very nearly out of space in our primary datacenter (as the post said) so just mirroring the data and servers wouldn't solve the issue. We could indeed take that route if we had the time to copy all the data, but a final rsync on 8TB would likely take longer than our scheduled move.

Working with the building in which our primary datacenter installation resides has become increasingly difficult. The power constraints keep getting more and more, well, constrictive. Thus, we've decided to start migrating small independent portions of our footprint there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Pam</p>
<p>To clarify, I meant cluster as a logical grouping of MySQL, Web, Mail, and file servers. It&#8217;s not necessarily the most accepted use of the word but it&#8217;s the vernacular around here. I apologize for any confusion the term causes.</p>
<p>@re eh|o</p>
<p>Actually the issue is that we&#8217;re very nearly out of space in our primary datacenter (as the post said) so just mirroring the data and servers wouldn&#8217;t solve the issue. We could indeed take that route if we had the time to copy all the data, but a final rsync on 8TB would likely take longer than our scheduled move.</p>
<p>Working with the building in which our primary datacenter installation resides has become increasingly difficult. The power constraints keep getting more and more, well, constrictive. Thus, we&#8217;ve decided to start migrating small independent portions of our footprint there.</p>
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		<title>By: Kids Defense Team Inc</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamhoststatus.com/2007/04/30/looney-server-move/#comment-32859</link>
		<dc:creator>Kids Defense Team Inc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 22:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May 2, 2007  6:43pm  My site is down,  my outgoing email doesnt work, never has here at dreamhost.  Never had a problem at any other place with out going email on outlook.  But I am more concerned with my site being down alot.


President/CEO
Kids Defense Team Inc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May 2, 2007  6:43pm  My site is down,  my outgoing email doesnt work, never has here at dreamhost.  Never had a problem at any other place with out going email on outlook.  But I am more concerned with my site being down alot.</p>
<p>President/CEO<br />
Kids Defense Team Inc.</p>
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		<title>By: Angry Dog</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamhoststatus.com/2007/04/30/looney-server-move/#comment-32829</link>
		<dc:creator>Angry Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 20:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>where the hell do you get these names from? lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>where the hell do you get these names from? lol</p>
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		<title>By: re eh&#124;o</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamhoststatus.com/2007/04/30/looney-server-move/#comment-32751</link>
		<dc:creator>re eh&#124;o</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 12:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you don't understand is that DH isn't smart enough to figure out stuff like that. Just like how they aren't smart enough to mirror the cluster onto another cluster in LA, then minimize downtime with the final file sync. This isn't hard stuff and real sysadmins know how to do this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you don&#8217;t understand is that DH isn&#8217;t smart enough to figure out stuff like that. Just like how they aren&#8217;t smart enough to mirror the cluster onto another cluster in LA, then minimize downtime with the final file sync. This isn&#8217;t hard stuff and real sysadmins know how to do this.</p>
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		<title>By: eh&#124;o</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamhoststatus.com/2007/04/30/looney-server-move/#comment-32658</link>
		<dc:creator>eh&#124;o</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 17:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ohhh well I knew my tiny part of the world was to going to get interrupted sooner or later- 

When this happens what will my vistors see?  

Wouldn't it be great if dream(g)host would mirror a "domain maintenance" page for all us affected?

2c</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ohhh well I knew my tiny part of the world was to going to get interrupted sooner or later- </p>
<p>When this happens what will my vistors see?  </p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be great if dream(g)host would mirror a &#8220;domain maintenance&#8221; page for all us affected?</p>
<p>2c</p>
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		<title>By: Pam</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamhoststatus.com/2007/04/30/looney-server-move/#comment-32650</link>
		<dc:creator>Pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 15:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm.  To me the word "cluster" means load-balancing and high(er) availability.

If you have a cluster, and if the cluster does share load, couldn't you turn off and move half of the servers at a time, therefore preserving uptime (but with half the capacity) for the time it takes to get the moved servers back up and running?  Then turn off &#38; move the original set in the old location after the first half are again operational?

I dunno, don't know what you've got set up, and cluster means lots of things to lots of people.  Still, turning off and moving a whole set of what I have to imagine are redundant servers at the same time &#38; therefore incurring a whole schwack of downtime just doesn't make a lot of sense to me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm.  To me the word &#8220;cluster&#8221; means load-balancing and high(er) availability.</p>
<p>If you have a cluster, and if the cluster does share load, couldn&#8217;t you turn off and move half of the servers at a time, therefore preserving uptime (but with half the capacity) for the time it takes to get the moved servers back up and running?  Then turn off &amp; move the original set in the old location after the first half are again operational?</p>
<p>I dunno, don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;ve got set up, and cluster means lots of things to lots of people.  Still, turning off and moving a whole set of what I have to imagine are redundant servers at the same time &amp; therefore incurring a whole schwack of downtime just doesn&#8217;t make a lot of sense to me&#8230;</p>
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