Swarthy move issue
Posted (July 14th, 2007 at 8:25 am PST) by marieSeems we hit a slight bump with the move last night. Users on a particular file server currently can’t see their sites or their users due to this. We are in the process of fixing this right now. Updates soon.
Affected servers: andor atomic cyrax dali dimarco frigga fud genki gradius hug kenobi lilac limbo-swarthy narcissus noid postac rock samus sektor slash slaw soda squirm strange thorin tron van vidar vlad wiggle zebes
Update: 10:17am All the websites should be back up but still fixing email issues.
Update: 10:25am Email is now working.
84 Responses to “Swarthy move issue”
Ugh! This is not good service. I am stuck in limbo with no access to my email and clients unaware that I can’t access it for waaaaay to long. This is not the first extended outage of this type I have suffered with Dreamhost… I sure hope it is my last. Also, as someone who relies on email for running much of what goes on with his business, I would suggest the severity is higher than “medium” for those of us STILL AFFECTED!!!!
We’ve been down for nearly 10 hours, which means (if service comes back within the hour and if there are no more outages this month) that uptime for swarthy clusterers is at 98.6% for July, which is not good. Many hosts guarantee 99.9% and actually get figures much higher than this. We get lots of features, space, pseudo-bandwidth and a not-quite-as-slow-as-it-used-to-be web panel at low cost, but there’s obviously room for improvement here. Does anyone have accurate longterm uptime figures for other hosts?
As I write this, my sites are starting to reappear, gradually, so it looks like things are (finally) returning to normal …
Not on any of the mentioned servers, but down for hours except for a few minutes of up time here and there. It seems every time I want to do some work on the sites, they are down. Getting real sick of this. Yes I’ve run account tests and send in a ticket.
Told ya. Friday the 13th is not to be trifled with!
Enough already? Sorry you’re having problems, but this comment area is reserved for swarthy people only. Our sites are starting to work again, but our email is still crippled (after 10.5 hours’ downtime), so this is the only place we can come to talk to each other …
I’m in agreement with you guys… I’ve been a long-time DH customer as well, and I’ve been patient through all of the bumps these past years. I must admit though, that this time in particular I’m pretty annoyed.
Where is my eMail? I have business to conduct and I am completely stopped without my eMail!
I too have been a LONG TIME loyal DH client, 8 years or so and things for the most part have been great, but 11 hours no eMail has cost me money and in the end, after I have to ask ask ask, what will I get, maybe 1/2 a day of free hosting. Bahhhh, just get this friggin eMail back up please so I can get to the part of my Saturday that I get to relax and enjoy.
Not moving swarthy could have taken down everything so, despite the problem, it wasn’t a bad thing. I do hope they fix it soon.
And no - this comment system is not just for swarthy users.
Does anyone know what’s happening to the mail? I really hope it’s not being bounced. I just sent out a bunch of resumes with a dHost-controlled email address.
ARRRRGH. WANT EMAIL BACK.
I’m another longtime DH user who is concerned about service. I just *knew* something was going to go screwy with this server cluster move. I warned all of my clients so I’m not dealing with much grief on that end (in fact, some of my sites are up and running *faster* than before). However, my main site is down, down down… Not happy about that at all.
I am abale to access email via webmail, hope you can too but my outlook is shot.
J ~ Wise move to warn your customers, I warned a few key people but I tell you, I should have just mass mailed them all cuz here I am on my day off and my office line wont stop ringing from concerned clients who just want to get their business done and move on with their weekends… 
Another long-time user here… guess there’s a bunch of us on this rack of servers. This outage is painful, and so too is the increasingly problematic availability (98.32%) and response time (1200+ ms, on average) that I’ve experienced of late. Hope this move offers a dramatic fix for both.
E-mail may be working and web sites may be back up, but I’ve still got an unresponsive MySQL database on that cluster …
It’s disconcerting that this is now flagged as resolved as my web site cannot establish a connection to its database.
Same here. Can’t connect to database.
Since so many sites rely on database now for all their content, it’s ridiculous to say the website is up when the database isn’t.
My database just came back online.
10:48 AM and no email via outlook… on the bright side my socal.rr.com email works for a change lol
Mine’s up now, too. (Whew!)
Yeah, ours came back up just after I posted here. I guess I was yelling “Fire” as they were putting away their hoses. 
Anyone still having problems should probably contact support - but you already knew that.
Glad to hear that some things are coming back online. I can assure you that the mail issues are not widespread as I continue to receive spam.
I think I get Dvorak’s.
Did e-mail sent to my address during the outage get bounced?
I seem to be missing anything between 9 p.m. July 13 and 10 a.m. today July 14.
DH should mention this, and soon!
Anyone else have trouble sending e-mail to Hotmail recipients? I’m getting errors from Hotmail’s gateway server saying it’s blocking my (utterly banal) messages for “obscene language, graphics, or spam-like characteristics (or) other reputation problems.” I’ve sent an e-mail to support@…
Yes, an e-mail to an msn.com address was blocked for the same reason.
How about Medium with spots of high outage for some? I like Digg a lot. I love Dreamhost despite these spots, it’s like being on a highway.
“Update: 10:25am Email is now working.
…
Current Time Is 12:48:57 PDT.”
And over 2 hours later they are STILL tracking move-related email downtime for some of us that was reported over an hour and a half ago when, apparently, the email problems were all fixed. Yet the status has not been updated and still shows (incorrectly) as fixed.
If it’s not fixed, don’t tell us it is. If you find that it’s not fixed later, let us know by updating this status blog and letting us know that you know, otherwise it’s a pointless waste of space as the REAL-time status info that you want us to use it as.
error id: “bad_httpd_conf”
its the error that i’m getting.
David-
This might help - http://wiki.dreamhost.com/Bad_httpd_conf
I still can’t get mail
My IMAP is still not working. From the comments of many above, this issue is NOT resolved.
I don’t know what their definition of “fixed” is… but my email is still not working except I have been able to get onto webmail at some time… but not others. but my blackberry, desktop computer at home, laptop, and work machine are all unable to make a connection to my mail server. What a drag that it is considered “fixed” and still doesn’t work.
Just call me another long time DH customer who is starting to look around for more reliable responsive service.
I’m on the haven server but cannot log on to anything with DH except here. I can’t get to the DH Panel to notify support that my sites and email have been down since Friday evening. Can somebody please contact DH for me and find out how I am supposed to submit a support request when I cannot log on to DreamHost. All our sites are down. I can’t log on to any of our sites, cannot collect mail from any of our sites, cannot log on to webmail.dreamhost.com, cannot log on to the DH main site, the DH panel, the DH blog, etc. Does anybody know if this is a DH problem, a problem with my isp, with my computer, or what? You can reach me at my isp email: edbernd@sc2000.net. Thanks.
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I need my Terminal Stupidity Support Group.
Thanks.
ed
Re. Ed Bernd Jr. Says:
July 14th, 2007 at 4:35 pm
All the site you listed in your post come up just fine (fast actually) for me. It sounds like you have some general connectivity issues going on.
Why don’t you pop over the http://discussion.dremhost.com and report your problems;l you are likely to get some help over there. 
Thanks for the suggestion riparker, but forgive me - I don’t get it. I may need psychological help and iq tests and such, but right now my problem is my web sites and email. I don’t see any place at discussion.dreamhost.com to report internet problems, just a bunch of ads. I click on the dreamhost link and get another bunch of ads.
Oh… now i see the problem… you mistyped the url. Sorry ’bout that, I’m 67 years old and working with one eye and it’s awfully weak.
Thanks anyway. I have no idea what you mean about connectivity issues. I can connect just fine to everything except DH, just like several other posters. I was hoping somebody might help, not just tell me that I don’t know what I’m doing… I already know that.
ed
One more update: I went to discussion.dreAmhost.com but I cannot post unless I set up an account, and to set up an account I have to use the password they send me in an email.
I have not gotten any email, not even to my isp account, since Friday evening.
I apologize if I was too grumpy in my previous post, but telling me I have a connectivity issue when I have been begging for help because I cannot connect to our web sites doesn’t tell me anything useful. If that’s some technical term, I don’t know what it means, so comments like that are useless and frustrating.
I am glad to know the sites are available to somebody. Maybe I can post a note that I’m not getting any emails, since I can update sites even though I cannot visit them.
ed
I haven’t gotten any email all afternoon. IMAP connects fine, as does squirrelmail, but there’s just no mail. I usually get at least 50 pieces of spam a day, so it’s highly improbable that I haven’t gotten any. What’s the deal? Why is this marked resolved?
(I’m on postac.)
Re. Ed Bernd Jr. Says:
July 14th, 2007 at 8:07 pm
I am *so* sorry about the mistyped url! Please forgive and I’m glad you sorted it out in spite of my error. Also, I now realize that you can’t post till your receive the initial password, and as you can’t get to your mail, that *is* a problem.
Towards a possible solution then:
The fact that *I* can connect successfully to each of your site’s urls while you cannot, and that I cannot connect to the other DH sites, while you cannot, makes me think that DNS has been cached (either by your ISP, your local router, or your system) which results in the inability to connect persisting *after* you have tried and failed, even though the sites are now live.
The short version of a “fix” for this (these blog comments are not the proper place for a “long version”) is to:
1) Clear your browser’s cache (exact keystrokes vary by browser )
2) Shut Down your system (breaks your connection to your ISP, releases you dynamically assigned IP address, etc.)
3) Reset/restart your ADSL/Cable modem, and if attached to your system, any router (again, to eliminate any caching).
4) Power everything back up (in proper order), reconnect to the internet, open your browser, and try again.
While not guaranteed to solve you problem, it very likely will given the circumstances you have described.. Good Luck!
Thanks riparker. It is all working now, but I don’t know why. I had done most of what you suggested - cleared the cache, etc. But I did it all again, with both browsers. Still couldn’t access any DH sites. My emails to support@dreamhost.com came back, with a notice that they were not accepted because they didn’t have an open support request in the subject line. Then… why do they tell you, on discussion.dreamhost.com, to write to that address if you have questions? That definitely earns them a spot in http://www.terminalstupidity.com. Next I downloaded the free Juno web software. Took 2 attempts. Finally got it, set it up, then before disconnecting from my isp, I tried one of our web sites again… and went right to it. Now you know why I an so well qualified to be the cofounder of terminalstupidity.com. Let’s face it, sometimes dumb pays off. Thanks again, I am glad that somebody cared enough to help. And i still love DH.
Better and better
ed
Add me to the list of people who still don’t their POP mail back. I lost email and web during the server (postac) move on Friday night. The Web returned in the morning, but I still can’t receive or send mail. (Squirrel mail does work.)
I’ve sent several messages to Dreamhost support and they told me that the problem was with my mail configuration!!
I’ve been a cusomter for many years, but these kinds of glitches have become all too common over the last few years. If any one out there knows a workaround let me know.
Hank
The Web Panel is buggy. I can’t reach my site via ftp on the melrose server but at least my site is still up.
Yes - there are lots of problems. Here are some more to add to the list: user crontabs were deleted after yesterday’s fiasco, and http and ftp access have been intermittent overnight.
All my sites seem fine except the ecard site. I get a notification every time someone sends a card (identical to what their recipient gets) and I am getting “no server response” for sent ecards. Just send one to myself and it worked - so I am wondering if it only affected ecards sent during the move or something. The site seems to be up and down, too. I am a bit underthrilled myself as I have limited time to work on the Internet. I live on a remote ranch and cannot get Internet there - so I have to drive into town…to find out my sites and email will be down for five hours. The next day I drive in again - and there seems to still be some problems. I’ve been with DH for five years myself and always been very pleased until just lately. Will just think good thoughts that all is soon resolved and any ecard customers whose cards have simply disappeared into the ether will forgive me.
Here’s something weird that is happening to me. My website works, and if I go on webmail there is mail there for me. However, when my emal program checks for mail or tries to send mail I get this:
AN ERROR HAS OCCURED WHILE ATTEMPTING TO RECEIVE MESSAGES FROM SERVER - PLEASE TRY AGAIN LATER
It’s been going on now for over 24 hours.
In the details, it tells me there is no socket error, that the operation completed successfully. What gives?
How about this evil thing: The contact e-mail on my DH account was reset without my authorization! Extremely bad security breach!
After my POP started working again, I received an e-mail from the DH system telling me that my account had been changed. I checked the web panel, and sure enough my contact e-mail had been changed to some address from the Netherlands! I changed it back and changed my account password, but who knows what havoc might have been wreaked in the meantime? (No damage that I can find, yet.)
To the credit of DH, their customer service people have been responding to my urgent e-mails within minutes. The first-line rep says he escalated this problem to higher-level techs, but I have not heard anything yet.
Congratulations, David B. At least you are able to send/receive email through your accounts! Some of us are still waiting almost 24 hours after the move for POP3 email access to be restored, and can’t get any response to support tickets, where the tickets show that they are aware of and tracking the server problem then the tracking magically disappears without the problem being fixed…
I am sorry to see in the last year dh has gone to the dogs. I have been with them from the start of there venture and can not belive its now sunday and the systum still shows that my servers are on a none dreamhost ip.
this is why i have stoped using the refer program and do not bring people to dh anymore! the constint lack of response to there problums that they create is just out of controll! You think you would set up a fall back plane to not put your costomers in this kind of position because you decide to move things around.
just sent in a ticket, but want to put some info out here for the group and see if anyone has any ideas.
my websites are back up, my databases are back up, and webmail (both secure and non-secure) is working, but logging into my imap servers is still quite busted. is it possible that there might be an ssl problem? anyone else using secure imap? if so, are you having problems?
after 6 years i’m still very happy with dreamhost’s service, and i know the outages we’ve been having in the past year are mostly due to infrastructure upgrades, but i hope that this most recent cluster move will be the end of such problems for those of us on thes servers.
POP3 is still down for me…anyone else still having a problem? If not, is there anything you can recommend to fix???
Yep, still down for me. Waited 11 hours for a support reply and got “it looks OK from our end”. Yes, that would be why the email client reports an error saying the server terminated the connection unexpectedly… for the last 24 hours plus.
I guess all the real tech support peple are off today footballing or netballing or skateboarding or whatever they do instead of working, and we’ll have to wait until they come back in normal office hours and relieve the temps they left in charge over the weekend.
My POP email is still down, too. My tickets are also being ignored regarding solving the problem. The claims that it is your isp or your configurations are off is a load of bull. I can’t access POP mail through my Roadrunner cable modem, via my blackberry phone, or via my Verizon EVDO card and on three different machines, all of which had working email prior to this change. So unless Dreamhost is right and the entire rest of the world is messed up, this is on Dreamhost whether they want to admit it, and respond to customers service requests, or not!
It really is a bummer that they make a choice to leave their customers out in the cold like this and not own up to their screw-up and fix it!!
I still can’t reach POP email through phones, outlook, etc. Contacted tech support and after 25 hours, got:
“I’m sorry for the problems you experienced. It seems that all of the
issues should have been resolved shortly after you wrote in. I tested
some of your mailboxes out now and was able to access them with no
problems. If you continue to have difficulties though, please don’t
hesitate to let us know.”
WRONG! Come on dreamhost - if you are doing a move on a Friday night, you better have good techs in on the weekend to ensure that it is actually done properly and respond faster and more accurately then that.
Still waiting for another response from tech support….
Darren,
If they can’t duplicate your problem, they cannot fix it.
Of course “Extra Secret” support is available to those that whine on dreamhoststatus.com for $200/hr + expenses they’ll come and fix your machine at your house. (Minimum 3 days, Must live on the coast of Mexico or the south of France.)
Tell them to check the DNS entries…I was going through the same thing, finally got this response…
“I’m very sorry for that error as it appears that the DNS changes were not
automatically updated in our name server database. I have ran an update
to correct this and your email should be functioning correctly shortly.
We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.
Brad”
Of course it still doesn’t work, but the changes will probably require some time to propagate.
Dreamhost-
Our site is still down…however you state- Update: 10:17am All the websites should be back up but still fixing email issues.
Are other sites hosted here still having issues with the Swarthy Server move??!!
6 of my domains still have non-responsive POP3 email. There’s nothing wrong with my end. It’s something DH did wrong or didn’t put back right after the recent work. I’m getting fed up waiting. Are they working on it or are they saying it’s our fault? The former, I hope, for their sake!
No, they have a new tactic now - to silently remove tickets about this issue from the support queue without replying to them at all.
There appears to be an issue with the permissions on the cron jobs for the web panel, which means the outage-tracking information is not working properly. When I submitted my second ticket on this unresolved issue :S the outages were apparently verified and the “time first reported” was EXACTLY the same as when I submitted the first ticket, one and a half hours previously. That’s so unlikely as to be ridiculous. At least they have now admitted that problem and are waiting for an administrative fix… which means that whoever IS in charge right now does NOT have administrative privileges - so my joke about leaving the temps in charge over the weekend doesn’t seem to have been too far off the mark.
Arrgggg! After more than 24 hours without any access to anything associated with DH except this status site (couldn’t visit our web sites, send or receive mail, go to DH panel, webmail, etc.) it suddenly came back late Saturday night. Everything was perfect I even renewed a bunch of our domains at the DH panel. And just now, attempting to send a normal email… it all came crashing down again. No email, no web sites, no access to DH panel. No way to request help from DH. And they have never mentioned the Haven server we are on!
So I guess we get 24 on and 24 off. Fun is fun, but this is getting a little old.
Let’s say a prayer, and hope for the best.
ed
Well this was a lot more fun this time:
The crash only lasted 5 minutes this time. Email is back, web sites are back… I think I’ll rush over and open a support ticket with DH and tell them never to close it, so I’ll have a way to contact them when I don’t have any way to contact them because I can’t log on to the DH panel.
ed
Update - 6 of my domains, including one critical business one that MUST be up and working before tomorrow, are still not responding to POP requests…..they’ve been down the whole weekend now. Pathetic! Webmail interface works, but no POP. WTF is going on?
Interesting….I just filed a support question on this. One of the pages that came up showed the results of the DH automated tests on my domains. These state clearly that all my non-working domains resolve to IP addresses that are OUTSIDE OF DREAMHOST!!! WTF??? How could this possibly be MY problem? They obviously did not restore my domains correctly. I’ll be looking for some discount/money back if it goes on much longer…..or maybe I’ll just vote with my feet and move my critical domains to a more reliable service provider……
Add my name to the list of people affected by this POP issue. Two of my domains have ceased responding to my email client, and though the mail still gets to the server, it stays there unless I happen to check it using SquirrelMail. It’s a frustrating situation.
Anybody get bounced email to good MSN addresses coming from swarthy emails? Happening for several days here.
I am now going on 48 hours with no working pop email. Dreamhost sent me the same canned response from “Brad” that they sent every one else saying it has been fixed… of course 12 hours later I still have no email access.
My swarthy email domains are not sending out emails. THey are bouncing back. I am receiving though.
I finally had a more meaningful reply, which implied that this is a DNS issue:
“The new DNS update actually took longer than expected due to the volume
of domains affected. I have gone ahead and manually pushed the new
records out for you to avoid any further delays. I now see the correct A
record for your mail subdomain is showing. Further tests also prove your
mail to be in working order once again.”
In what sense working? I still can’t access any POP3 mail for any of my domains despite this intervention. If they have messed with domain DNS entries while doing the move, then WhyTF didn’t they notify this in this status blog, so that we would be alerted that some issues might take time to settle, instead of leaving the misleading information that email problems were “fixed”? And why wasn’t this explained earlier in the support responses we have had?
Dreamhost tends to work fine for me, until something stops working for no apparent reason. My sites suddenly can’t send any mail: “Oops, the cluster had a wrong permission set”. My webserver is suddenly refused permission to access my MySQL server, with a scary error message: “Oops, there was a wrong permission set on a database table”. These aren’t problems I have created, they are screw-ups by people messing with stuff that they are clearly not competent to handle, and these are the people WE are expecting to sort these problems out? :S There’s just too many of these “Oops…” these days.
I hope the guys that own the company are reading this thread.
Someone really screwed up here resulting in massive outages, compromised security, and who knows what else.
Then, the staff on duty engaged in a cover-up, failing to post vital information on this status page and deleting support messages without resolving them.
I have given DH the benefit of the doubt for 5 years, because of the excellent services they provide most of the time. But unless they come clean on this incident, with a public announcement and apology, and with a description of new procedures to prevent this nonsense in the future, I will reluctantly begin searching for another host.
This is no way to run a railroad!
We still do not have working email from Swarthy and are dead in the water on July 16 at 3:04 p.m. We haven’t had any working email since July 14th. When will this be fixed?
No email since the morning of Friday the 13th. The reply to my first tech support inquiry seemed to answer a question I never asked, and my second attempt came back with a helpful reminder that I owed them $19. Well then, charge my Credit Card like you’ve been doing for the past 7 years!! From Friday the 13th to April Fools Day in one weekend! Wow! I’m praying tomorrow will be Christmas…
To those still having problems: I managed to solve mine by changing from swarthy.mail.dreamhost.com back to mail.zigamorph.net. Of course, this means that the domain name in the certificate no longer matches.
And, to make it more confusing, mail.zigamorph.net has an IP of 208.113.200.33, which reverse-looks-up as swarthy.mail.dreamhost.com. swarthy.mail.dreamhost.com, however, has an IP of 208.97.132.41, and immediately hangs up after answering IMAP.
I’m not even on the same servers with you guys but I am having outages every afternoon now. Only for a few minutes at a time. When it happens, nothing works… no email, can’t log on to web sites, and cannot log on to any DH site (panel, webmail, etc.) except this one.
I just sent them a support request and asked them how I can contact support to submit a support request when I cannot log on to the DH panel to submit a support request… like happens every day now.
Let’s hope they fix it soon.
ed
Please note that “due to” is inappropriate usage equivalent to “owed to,” and is typically used in descriptions of financial tramsactions. If you’re assigning a reason for a particular circumstance, the correct form is, “because of…”
(Sorry… Couldn’t think of anything else to complain about and I have some free time on my hands because my site is so slow today…)
(Sorry… Couldn’t think of anything else to complain about and I have some free time on my hands because my site is so slow today…)
Well, while you’re waiting on your site to load, you could be doing some research. You might find out it can be applied to either. It’s understandable, though, that due to a lack of understanding the english language that might be missed.
Unfortunately, you’re incorrect. It would only be acceptable in a Web 2.0 world where the language is corrupted almost to the point of being silly. Your rent is due. It’s due because you rent the place. Causality is never a condition of being “due to” unless it’s due to your landlord. Been duing American for a long time. I due it good. Why? Because…
Unfortunately, you’re incorrect. It would only be acceptable in a Web 2.0 world where the language is corrupted almost to the point of being silly.
Rule number 1: If you’re going to argue with me, you’d best be able to back it up better than me. But since I can tell you haven’t looked it up… I’ll just give you the link. Hey, I’ll even do you one better… from that exact page:
b. because of; owing to: All planes are grounded due to fog.
Now, where’s your proof to the contrary?
An online dictionary! I’m impressed. Online stuff is just so spot on! Oh, I give up for sure! My journalism degree and 28 years as a writer are meaningless in comparison!!! Forgive me for doubting you!
An online dictionary! I’m impressed. Online stuff is just so spot on! Oh, I give up for sure! My journalism degree and 28 years as a writer are meaningless in comparison!!! Forgive me for doubting you!
I can find it on paper if you’d prefer. Unfortunately I’d have to scan it and put it online. Which by your own logic would make it untrustworthy. Oh, yeah… you majored in journalism. Your logic’s supposed to suck.
I’ve had the degree too long to fit modern misconceptions of the I’m Witless News generation. Besides, “supposed to” is usually an assumption based on heresay and rumor. On the other hand, whether it does or doesn’t, people pay me for it –repeatedly– so I’m forced to assume that it has some value.
Look, let’s ignore the fact that you decided to take a tongue-in-cheek comment and fill it with high-handed pissosity. The simple fact is that there are tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands or even millions, of things that are in common usage in language –and which appear in dictionaries and posssibly thesauri, gasp– but that are also inappropriate in their usage.
Dictionaries tend to abet that usage because the word or phrase has become popular. While there’s no real harm in such behavior beyond a furtherance of ignorance among those who don’t know any better –something that’s apparently acceptable in a Web 2.0 world– neither the inclusion nor the repeated usage make it technically correct. All it does is make it acceptable and, unfortunately, repeatable among the masses.
It’s like the difference between fact and truth. Although the two are typically bound together erroneously in most logics, truth is fungible while fact is immutable. The truth is that people use “due to” and folk know what they mean. However, the fact is that they shouldn’t because it’s incorrect.
If you can’t understand that then there’s no hope for the universe, Flash Gordon won’t defeat Ming the Merciless, and no point in carrying on.
The truth is that people use “due to” and folk know what they mean. However, the fact is that they shouldn’t because it’s incorrect.
And this would be a fact according to what? Facts also require they can be proven. If it can’t be, then it stops being a fact and starts being an opinion. Which is entirely fine–you are, of course, entitled to yours. But if you’re gonna call it otherwise, show me where your information’s coming from.
That’s where you’re wrong. Facts are the proof. Didn’t you get that? Facts cannot be opinion, by their nature, and you’re just being silly by suggesting they could be. And I’m pretty much done wasting any more of my time trying to educate you. Believe what you want.
And that’s why you’re in journalism. If one person says it, then it must be fact. There’s just nothing else it could be. Here’s another fact for you. You sir have absolutely no room to be “educating” anyone. If after supposedly 28 years or more of writing etc you still have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about, it’s not your time you’re wasting. Just the same, though, you can still take your supposed facts without any indication whatsoever that they’re facts to anyone else except you and kindly shove them. The world doesn’t need anymore morons offering opinions.
Yup, you’re right.
My swarthy email domains are not sending out emails. THey are bouncing back. I am receiving though.
My database just came back online.
I haven’t gotten any email all afternoon. IMAP connects fine, as does squirrelmail, but there’s just no mail. I usually get at least 50 pieces of spam a day, so it’s highly improbable that I haven’t gotten any. What’s the deal? Why is this marked resolved?
(I’m on postac.)
Thank you for the update, Marie. Hoping for a speedy resolution of this problem, since the total email/website downtime is now unacceptably long. This from a long-term DH client (since 1997, when Josh used to answer my support queries himself, rather than post blog entries from grounded planes!) who’s beginning to get worried about the quality of service here …