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Networking Problems

Posted (August 22nd, 2007 at 1:36 am PST) by jordan

We are currently experiencing networking problems similar to the one on August 16th, 2007. It is being worked on at this time and should be fixed asap. We apologize for the inconvenience

UPDATE - The networking issues have been solved for the time being but this post will be left open pending a more permanent fix.

This entry was posted on Wednesday, August 22nd, 2007 at 1:36 am and is filed under General Outages, Network Outages. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. Both comments and pings are currently closed.

218 Responses to “Networking Problems”

Nooooooooooo.
Good luck DH and PLZSORT!

“Fri Aug 16 13:12:38 PDT 2007
After a core router config change we believe the network outages of Wednesday and Thursday of this week will not return. We will be digging deeper into the situation to determine why the issue appeared suddenly with no change on our part. This problem report will be left unresolved for awhile longer until we’re quite sure it is not resurfacing.”

Yeah right. Didn’t work out?

Oh snap, again. Hopefully you get it fixed.

It’s not exactly the prime time here, but not night time either.

Sincerely,
your customer on GMT+3

I’ve been having trouble with large parse times and loading even the panel for the past few hours. I’m guessing this is why.

dumb shit. I was transferring a file and it failed, now half the file is gone! Hard work.. thanks alot dreamhost… I’m tired of this bullshit

I’ve been hardcore about DH since I joined… but now I’m getting as PISSED OFF as the rest of ya. THIS IS GETTING FUCKING REDICULOUS!!!

Yeah, I’m also getting pretty frustrated.

I’m a really lazy guy and don’t want to run my own server on my own time - but I’m semi-seriously considering the option.

My web site always off line

mysql always time off. My web only 5 to 100 user maxime on line and crash

Jesus fucking christ, I guess it’s time for the weekly network failure. Better get your too-fucking-casual blog writer started making jokes about it.

From a thrid biggest hostingcompany in the US (or so they claim to be) you’d expect better servers and services. If all of us pay 15 dollars a month and there are 1 million users available (which I expect there are) then they have 15 millions of dollars available for all stuff. Even if costs are down by half or threequarters of that, the still have 3.5 million dollars to spent on new servers.

I guess its cheaper to mass-sell of services to the masses, cashing in and then sometimes upgrade something. Its not hard to imagine why they started a new Dreamhost Private Server project, though I wonder how they are going to give garantees on that, with all these problems.

Iwasen thusiasistic about your service and your attitude towards business but I’d like to let you know that I’m considering moving somewhere else once my 2-year contract ends. You’ve got about a year to win my heart back.

By they way… I dunno how it is with the rest of ya, but I have 450+ unique visitors a day on my sites. Is this too much for shared hosting? Or are there users here that have bigger bigger sites running on DH’s shared servers? I don’t know what is a viable number to think of moving to a private server (and I don’t mean at DH, there are some other services I’m now taking into concideration).

Anyone any ideas about userratios vs shared hosting?

:-(

I thought something was wrong because first my site was extremely slow and then it couldn’t connect to the SQL-database anymore.

Well, before the torrent of distinguished “DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY I’M LOSING BECAUSE OF YOU”, “DREAMHOST IS TOTALLY UNRELIABLE” and “YOU GUYS SUCK; I’M SWITCHING HOSTS” starts flooding this page, let me just say: good luck in fixing the problem, try to make it final this time and while you’re at it…try and increase the speed of the SQL-databases :-D

I’m back online. Problem solved for me. I’m on crackerjack.

I might as well add that the internet is a 24/7 community, so if this means it 2:05 am in the US, it is NOT in the rest of the world.

TerminatorFiles: I wanted to say that colbertnation.com is hosted on DH, which probably gets a lot of hits. But then I noticed that the sites load really fast compared to “back in the day”, then I did a traceroute and they apparently switched hosting.

oh yeah.. and FUCK YOU MARIE YOU BITCH! If you ever look for support, don’t ask from her. That bitch couldn’t even provide friendly support and left me stranded. Then as any normal PAYING customer would do, I write back stating that it’s something called goodness of your heart to see a PAYING customer succeed… AND THE BITCH WROTE BACK SOME QUOTES FROM THE TERMS OF SERVICE!?

WHY HALF ASS HELP SOMEBODY AND THEN WHEN THEY REALLY NEED YOUR HELP, TURN THEM DOWN! FUCK YOU MARIE YOU BITCH! I’M PUTTING YOU ON BLAAAAAAAAAASSSTT!

August 22nd, 2007 at 2:23 amsuh-wheat!!!! Says:

ERROR: Connection dropped by IMAP server.

How come I can’t login to my webmail (AGAIN@!!@$)($)?

my site slow :(

umarım sorun düzelir

my webmail isnt working? password not recognized? why!

In Poland is 11:28 am our company webpage is not working so do webmail……my boss is pissed- do the fix QUICK!!!

yep webmail aint working! - unknown user and passwords?!?! our office cant do shit

August 22nd, 2007 at 2:33 amsuh-wheat!!!! Says:

“I’d piss on a spark plug if I thought it’d do any good”.

YALL GOT OWNED IN THE FACE..

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT SO FAR THIS LAST YEAR.. PRETTY MUCH EVERYTIME PEOPLE HAVE COMPLAINED ABOUT THEIR SHIT BEING FUCKED UP (MAIL, SITE DOWN, ETC) MINE WAS DOING JUST PERFECT AT THE SAME TIME. SO JUST FYI, DH HAS A LOT OF FUCKING CUSTOMERS AND IF THERE’S ONLY A FEW OF YOU WHINING HERE THEN THAT MEANS THEY’RE DOING A HELLUBA GOOD JOB IMHO.

FKN NIGS.

My site is back :-D I’m on the dorito server if anyone cares.

Appreciate the update and hope it will be resolved soon. We were in the middle of developing a new tool for our wow guild site.

wow is for fags.

You just generalized 9 million people, way to go.

Here we have 10:46 AM so it is the rush hour and my website is not working :/ I have to send every stupid photo / other stuff for every enquiry from my customers using my free email account…
Please put webservers online ASAP!

Guys don’t get so pissed about this. They are giving us the most of quality hosting. give them more time in fixing this. There’s no one we can really blame for this problem. GO DH team.. people are really getting mad now.. lolx

Daaaaamn here in Poland GMT+2 pop3 & web is totally down, please fix it cause clients are screaming and yellin’ !

I know you can do it !

I’ve been a custumer since Q1/2005, I pay much more than 7$ a month (Code Monster shit or something like that) and I am hosting the web presences of 20+ domains (3 companies, div departements,…) and a bigger photosite in development. While the webpresences are mostlty one html page, the photosite isn’t. I am moving it to another provider, and will leave the dreamhost servers maybe as a secondary mirror for larger files

As for the companies, even if their website isn’t big, their mailspace is (hosted for now on dreamhost too). AND A CUMULATED DOWNTIME OF 7+ DAYS OF THE MAILS (I am not talking about the webmail disfunctions, I am talking about mail servers not reacheable, DNS Servers that don’t resolve shit,….) SINCE JAN 2007 ISN’T SERIOUS NO MATTER HOW LOW YOU CHARGE YOUR CUSTOMERS. I had 2 days downtime TOTAL over a period of 4 YEARS when I was a student and hosted my mails and that of my collegues (and boy we HAD TRAFFIC!) on a computer on my home adsl line with a dyndns service!!!

Having a dedicated server will cost me 10bucks more per month than what I pay to dreamhost. As we speak I am moving everything (especially mails) to this server. I subcribed to two different (different countries) mail spoolers to spool the mail if the dedicated server is down. We cannot afford to loose any more mails.

I was patient enough, too patient maybe. Now it has come to an end, as it is a concrete risk for my business and that of my partners. I should have moved earlier, so that I don’t have to do this in addition to all other deadlines and milestones having over me.

I can’t login to panel, half of my users can’t resolv my domain correctly…

i don’t know how to believe your company

OK, so get pissed, regardless of time zone, but are terms like “nigs” and “fags” the best you can do for invective? We pay money, many of us are reliant on the sites to MAKE money, and I don’t think DH has forgotten this. I will say this much tho: I came to DH b/c of a relatively spotless record (as compared to dozens of other hosting solutions). Since February, even the guy who recommended it to me has been embarrassed. Whoever said this was starting to seem “weekly” was perilously close to the truth. I keep picturing those old phone operators getting tangled their switchboards and mono jacks, like an “I Love Lucy” skit for the digital age.

BTW, rootbeer has taken its Viagra. [sigh]

Well it’s time to finally get the hell out of DH! This is f….g ridiculus!

I cant belive that so many people get so pissed off at what they are calling pathetic service, but then they do nothing about it!! I realise it is a big thing to move from one host to another, but if DH really is that bad, MOVE!!!

And swearing, shouting, and being rude gets you nowhere. It certainly doesn’t help the DH staff who are doing their best to get things working again for us as quickly as possible.

re: M.S. : No, they are not any more. In 2004 and 2005 DH did indeed have quality hosting, now it is a shame to call it “SERVICE” or “PROVIDER” of anything. I am a loyal person: loyal to reliable people and to reliable service. In 2005 I even considered to put a line at our “Contact us” pages, that we were hosted by dreamhost, because I could safely recommend DH to everyone. Now, as I said, it is an embarassement.

I’ve also lost mails because of the DNS problems. It sucks, even if they were for nonprofit, hobby project of myself.

But as I’ve said before:

Dreamhost is not for business-critical websites or mail systems. If it’s critical to you, don’t subscribe to the biggest overseller you can find! There’s a reason that the business hosting is so damn expensive. Babysitting the servers AND customers 24/7 costs a crapload of money. Dreamhost’s business plan is as far from that as one can get. Shouldn’t come as a surprise if you’re been reading any reviews or their own blog.

This was said by a DH customer who considers getting more than he pays for. Well, most of the time atleast.

August 22nd, 2007 at 3:28 amstill off-line Says:

graham: it seems that being rude or not doesn’t change the situation. what is more, nobody can do shit about it: panel is down, DH stuff is getting mass mailing now and they probably can’t read those mails so where else you can post your concerns? if it was so easy to move domains, sites, mail accounts quickly & easily many people would do it right away…

I can only say…. I have other hosting where I only have 1 hour and 2 hours of downtime respectively for each host for the _entire year_. DH != “Quality Hosting”, DH == “Lots of cheap space with lots of downtime”.

I sympathize with everyone who’s having downtime. It’s weird that my site has been online and functioning completely normally for the entire duration of these problems. I wonder why it’s not affecting me.

I am still unable to enter my website hosted on DH and dreamhost.com :/

re Graham:

Your Post just reminded me about a quote from one of my favourite american films, The Rock (Connery, Cage, Harris), whe Sean Connery says (I am quoting from memory):

Losers always whine about doing their best, but winners go home and fuck the prom queen!

If DH was under attack (which it isn’t), I would not post here. I would not post either if a big earthquake, or what we call a RAOG (REAL Act of God) happened in the location where the servers are hosted.
Racing Conditions Do occur when the Design is flawed, or the Implementation, or both. In any case, it is the fault of DH. When I as an architect decide to put somewhere in my network a Cisco Equipment, my beef is with Cisco when it fucks up, BUT MY CUSTOMERS HAVE A BEEF WITH ME, BECAUSE I WAS THE ONE WHO MADE THE DECISION TO PUT IT THERE.

Cisco makes us believe that they own the internet, but they don’t. There are other choices.

For all of you who think about telling me to do better: I am an Architect for big Information Systmes for over 10 years. I designed, migrated systems (400+ Servers, 3000+ Permananent employees, branch offices across europe, Backbones,… per client) for 2 major European Banks and one bigger European Airport, meaning mostly high volume mission critical systems. All migrations had 0% downtime, all systems didn’t even have partial downtime since, even when adjacent systems went down because of an “Act of God”.

Dh has to my knowledge 10 to 30 times the budget / year I had for my systems. Not everything needs big amount of money or equipment, 90 percent is resolved by the design. While I still believe that DH is honest with its customers about money, I think that in the past 2 years they simply grew organically, because of their success, beyond their level of competence, and now are spending money not into the right things IMHO.

What I wanted to say is not how competent I am or am not, I wanna say is that DH can be run without those problems (I am not talking DDOS Attacks, but there are even solutions against those for mission critical services like the DNS (at least). DH isn’t dependent on any one and only special hardware provider (There are even other alternatives to Cisco ;) ) to do its business, so every problem they are having (except DDOS again) its on their side. If Dh would do their best, there would be problems like this. IT IS POSSIBLE TO DO IT (I did it, and doing it still, and i am by far not the only competent person in this matter.

I have other things to do than to whine about DH. Taking the time to write both posts in this forum is a sign of RESPECT I have for a company I have been a happy customers until 2006, and still am (for now until all transfer procedures are accomplished).

Sites are all up and running again. Thanx DH. My concerns about the income of 15 dollars a months times 1 million users (not that outrages) minus costs = 3 million dollars for upgrading still stands. Why not provide us with better servers and services instead of new products that when installed take up more bandwidth and usage of CPU etc?!

I do not run a business… so I guess I’ll stay for the little ammount you ask of us, but I also hope these remarks by us users are used to improve the overall services provided. In the end we are in it for that… whatever ammount we pay (and I know of services you pay hundreds of dollars for and you never get the service DH provide).

This remark being somewhat 180 degrees the oppisit of what I said before. Happy DreamHosting again… and awaiting another network failure in say… 3 days?! ;).

Cant check mail. People are crying in the hallways and jumping out of windows. Please fix this asap!!!

Ahh its fixed! Works now! Thank you for resolving this issue so quickly!

May the holy river ducks of Mongolia bring you fortune, wimmen and less networking problems!

çözüldümü sorun?

i’d rather the “billing buy” shows up asap coz my several new signups’ been delayed more than 24 hrs to get approved!

To Alexander. I completely agree that most if not all the blame in these outages IS DH! And I agree that providing a reliable system is all about the underlying design of that system, which DH has let slip in the last year or two. Like you, I work in a field where providing less than 100% reliability will actually cost peoples lives! Of course, I do not use a DH network for any part of it!

My beef is with the people that post comments on this forum that are offensive to the DH support staff, and to other users of the DH network. I understand that people are losting business, losing money, losing respect in front of their customers, but keeping a certain level of decentcy in times like this is an indication of your own professionalism.

I’ve been with DH for about 4 years now and have finally taken steps to move to another host due to these latest outages. I hope that they get things sorted out soon, because up until recently, they have provided a good value for money product.

And to off-line still, I believe there are a number of hosting companies that will provide free assistance to move your hsoting. Try looking at at bluehost.com. I cant imagine the migration would be completly pain free, but I am sure it cant be worse than having no service for hours at a time.

My site is sitll down as well as webmail!!!!

Oh, and to the quote from Sean Connery, I think you got it pretty damn close, I love that movie!

guess i’m not gonna register… too many downtime…

1) thou shallt not worship other processors than triple core despite generosity in bandwidth
2) thou shallt honor and serve only one entity: the internet
3) thou shallt not misuse the name of the node
4) thou shallt leave the server sabbath to nevergoing2happen
5) honor your server and your router
6) do not reset switches even when bitstreams suffer seven plagues
7) thou shallt not express smileys during failure on thy logs
8) thou shallt not make thy customers lose money by not refunding their dollars
9) thou shallt tell the truth and nothing but the truth so help us blog
10) thou shallt abide to the user and the whole paying community

Amen.

Well, I’ve been a customer of DH, still considering of coming back, because of the generous space & stuff offered. DH, give me one damn good reason why I should be a returning customer!

My site is still down as well. The announcement that it is now okay is horribly incorrect!

Pathetic.

I still can’t receive mail and access my web panel. :-(

Mensje

UTC/GMT +1

August 22nd, 2007 at 6:36 amstill off-line Says:

My sites are still down - problem is NOT SOLVED

How are Dreamhost’s dedicated servers? Can I expect similar problems if I upgrade?

I still have no access to my web panel or my website. Clearly whatever you thought to have fixed isn’t.

Nathalie
GMT+1

Dedicated servers are on the same network, so if the networks goes down they go down too. The email and mysql are still shared. It’s just that the web machine is not shared. So if mysql performance sucks, it’ll still suck on a dedicated.

Thanks, Zylox. Anyone want to recommend a good hosting company for dedicated servers?

August 22nd, 2007 at 7:06 amstill off-line Says:

Paul: I am assuming you’re located in Poland - if so then try dedicated servers at home.pl - not cheap but excellent support and 0% downtimes

I’ve just had a reply from support, and they are saying that the sites are coming up fine in the US, and so it must be overseas customers who are having problems. I have sent a tracert, and so hopefully this will help them solve the issue.

Everything is still offline here in Poland (GMT +1). I only just signed up with Dreamhost a couple of weeks ago and have to say that I now regret doing so.

My websites located on dads are still down. For over 16 hours.

my all the websites and cPanel are so slow.

i am come from chinese :-) GMT +8

August 22nd, 2007 at 7:49 amstill off-line Says:

OK I logged in remotely to my Windows Servers in US and everything is fine from there, but from Poland and Estonia - NOTTA! Some .pl domains works fine but all .eu .biz are completely down…

coffee is up but one of my sites is down again?? get this shit fixed, damn….. ROOKIES, I CAN’T WORK WITH ROOKIES! haha

http://www.hostreview.com and http://www.aplus.net are the best hostingproviders to move to. Hostreview is a bit complicated with their pricing, but the srvice is good. My preference is aplus.net. They have 99.99% uptime and ar as generous as Dreamhost.

Paul: look for a dedicated server in Europe, if you’re in Poland. Funny thing (in Germany at least) is that Webhosting is very expensive (you rarely get more than 2gb of space for about $20), but dedicated servers are thrown at you (starting at around $30-40). And it’s completely reversed in the US. You can get tons of diskspace in Webhosting, but have to pay at least $100-200 for a decent server. Same with VPS, here you can get a good VPS for unter $10, in the US you pay at least $40 for a VPS.

Manfred: hostreview.com is not a webhost, it’s a website which reviews webhosts and links to them.

The problem in Holland (Europe) is that hosting is so damn expensive (at yourhosting.nl). You’d have to pay 5 times the DH price for a mere few hundred mb server space and only one mysql db. But they are never down. I think the trade-off lies in whether or nor you’re running a commercial website. If the website is mission critical, then a more expensive and reliable hoster is the better alternative. For hobby sites, DH is great.

mr Manfred,

Do you have first hand experience with aplus.net? If you mention hostreview as a hosting company, you do not sound credible… if I may

The biggest problem is that after the last update no updates are added to this blog-item. Reading al the last replies shows that the customers stil heve problems with their sites webmail and others.

Please give some update about the estimated time to resolve the problem.

@Wil W. Wat

Indeed! (niet te betalen hier in Nederland)

The fist couple of years of DreamHost existence were great. No downtime at all. But now their growth has become their own burden. At the expense of their reputation … and our wallets. They keep on trying to stay funny, in their outage reports, their newsletters, their blogs, etc. But the humor from their staff does not bring me back the customer I just missed.

@ Mensje

Yep, duuuuur en vrekkerig!

I was a DH customer since 2002. I saw a lot of ups and downs. Within the past year, things have gotten really unreliable. After last week’s network outages, I left DH for another hosting provider. Now, reading this, I’m glad I did. What a nightmare for all of you.

Why dreamhost.com is down? And my all site are down too………………………..

panel.dreamhost.com is offline here in Poland (GMT + 1), and some of my users cannot access my site :| FUCK!

I too from Poland. And not working site dreamhost.com, panel dreamost, and all sites in dreamhost!! Please answer support dreamhost…..

It’s great that Apache is up now. Worse that FTP is down instead.

Also still down from overseas here, and pinging from a 3rd party uptime service also gives no dice

I am getting a LITTLE tired of this …

I serve 5+ customers, and I want to wacht football …

remi@

I’m from Poland and also got all my sites down. Probably a DNS issue, as some friends (having different providers) can access these sites.

Spain down five minutes ago.

my site’s working fine, yet a little slower than usual…

yes, there have been some problems in the last week or so, but you’ll soon forget about them after another few months of uptime.

@Tomash - I have the same problem ;/

I’m too in Poland and I can’t access Dreamhost servers too. My Internet connection is from TPSA.

@Tomash, radzio - My site is down too :-(

Panel and my subdomains didn’t work :(

http://redlog.pl - works but not everyone can view my site
http://vtg87.redlog.pl - works but not everyone can view my site

but I can’t view my second subdomain + webpanel :/

I have TPSA too ;]

Hmm - redlog.pl - 208.113.211.158
my not working submain has - 208.113.196.9

So something inside DH dns or network is not good yet ;/ FUCK ;/

I am so glad my webmail isn’t working! Got a good reason now for not responding ;-)

I have no Panel!!! How can I get any support?

Polish users can set up w3cache.icm.edu.pl:8080 as their proxy servers. This will allow them to access all Dreamhost services.

No panel, no webmail, no ssh.. No nothing.

Same here (Poland, TPSA -but not all TPSA has this problem 83.X [neo] does but 195.205.X [atm] works) not working, from my company (Ipartners - runs like hell) -> started myself vpn (luckly i’m root :>), so I can at least work with my svn. If this woul’d stop soon, I will change hosting company.

I can’t access to my site from my isp (orange / france telecom). It is accessible from other places. i last was able to access 24 hours ago.
I think it is not DH fault, but if nobody from my isp (a big european one) can view my site, this is bad for me and something dh have to care

Im frustrated… all week there was downtime on my site… Rigth now is not working anymore…

I will pay for a dedicated server in a few days and says bye bye to DH

Work only panel and ftp ;/ .
I have TPSA…

PUES ME CAGO EN LA PUTA!

umh… tpsa is part of france telecom also…

To summarize the output of traceroute:

10 196 ms 194 ms 168 ms NEW-DREAM-NETWORKS-LLC-Los-Angeles.ge-0-1-0.410.ar1.LAX3.gblx.net [6
4.215.183.50]
11 * * * Request timed out.

It appears this router is just dropping European traffic. Yay.

Yeah I haven’t been able to access any dreamhost sites, either the panel or hosted sites from europe all day.

wouter - I first i would agree to that, but now I’ve checked a route from dh to my home. And that’s really weird:

apollo (0.0.0.0)(tos=0×0 psize=64 bitpattern=0×00) Wed Aug 22 14:48:53 2007
Keys: Help Display mode Restart statistics Order of fields quit
Packets Pings
Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev
1. ip-208-113-128-1.dreamhost.com 0.0% 37 4.2 33.0 0.6 148.3 47.4
2. ge-0-1-0.410.ar1.LAX3.gblx.net 0.0% 37 2.8 13.0 0.5 158.0 35.5
3. ge7-4-10G.ar2.LAX2.gblx.net 69.4% 37 0.6 2.1 0.6 6.7 1.8
4. ???
5. ge2-1-10G.ar4.LAX1.gblx.net 24.3% 37 3.1 13.8 0.7 234.5 44.9
te7-2.10G.ar2.lax2.gblx.net
te7-2-0GE.ar4.LAX1.gblx.net
6. te8-1-10G.ar2.LAX2.gblx.net 86.1% 37 2.2 2.7 0.8 4.3 1.4
7. ge2-2-0-10G.scr2.LAX1.gblx.net 86.1% 37 6.8 3.3 1.1 6.8 2.5
te7-2.10G.ar2.lax2.gblx.net
(…) -> same as above
20. ge2-1-10G.ar4.LAX1.gblx.net 50.0% 32 3.4 12.7 0.9 135.8 33.5
te7-2-0GE.ar4.LAX1.gblx.net
ge2-2-0-10G.scr2.LAX1.gblx.net21. te7-2.10G.ar2.lax2.gblx.net 0.0% 4 2.2 4.6 1.9 9.8 4.5?

and goes like this on and on. So im targeting at AS discovery error, or just routing error in BGP. Whatever it is it should be fixed - and it’s obvious that it is dh’s isp’s foult. So guys, take the phone and yell :>

i keep trying to get in touch with tech support over tickets for more than one day. open tickets are closed and i have no answer from DH. Did this happened to anyone else ? i’m having and life & death situation and Dreamhost are keep closing my tickets while i’m trying to get in touch with them.

I submitted a tix and requested a call back. Nineteen hours passed and I got no reply. I cancelled the request and contacted the Better Business Bureau.

It’s pretty sad, but you may want to do the same if DH continues to neglect you:

http://www.labbb.org/BBBWeb/Forms/Business/CompanyReportPage_Expository.aspx?CompanyID=13131294

ARE THERE ANYBODY FROM DH SUPPORT TEAM?!?!?!?!?!

it’s sad, they disabled my account without any warning, due to an email send for a site that was 2 days online and bought 5 days ago. They said that they received complaints about the site - which offers shipping services - but the site was online for 1-2 days and it’s not even indexed by google. And, most of that, the said didn’t even had 30 unique visitors in the total time it was online.

I don’t want to hurt them, just to reach tech support and understand. for this complaint I have all the sites down for 28 hours now, and no answer, submitted over 14 tickets, with proofs and everything but the tickets are keep cancelling. Meanwhile, we lose money, trafic, clients and credibility. The BBB can’t resolve this issue. But seems that DH isn’t willing to do either, since they keep cancelling every ticket we open, in which we’re willing to do everything to ensure to comply to tos.

I don’t know, but it doesn’t look good - no answer in 28 hours just cancelled tickets. And each cancelled ticket means that an tech support is reading it before it close it. I’m with DH since Q1 2004, and everything was going ok, i received support within 5-8 hours.

chat.dreamhost.com seems empty also.

Houston, We’ve Got a Problem

I’d just like to say thanks for all the work you put into solving these problems DreamHost. I understand every company has its hardships (in this case, downtime) and they would never get solved if not for your understanding of the situation and dedication to fixing it.

So, regardless of how long it takes, I’m keeping my roots in the ground. Best of luck in fixing your issues!

this is my traceroute this morning:

10 te10-3.fftse1.FrankfurtAmMain.opentransit.net (193.251.241.245) 78.055 ms 78.590 ms 76.324 ms
11 (193.251.247.70) 77.040 ms 78.262 ms 76.826 ms
12 * * *

and this is now:

9 te10-3.fftse1.FrankfurtAmMain.opentransit.net (193.251.241.245) 94.588 ms 97.010 ms 99.441 ms
10 64.208.110.229 (64.208.110.229) 101.876 ms 104.308 ms 75.517 ms
11 NEW-DREAM-NETWORKS-LLC-Los-Angeles.ge-0-1-0.410.ar1.LAX3.gblx.net (64.215.183.50) 222.198 ms 222.441 ms 223.670 ms
12 * * *
13 * * *

Look at DreamHost’s record of responding to the Better Business Bureau = 100%.

http://www.labbb.org/BBBWeb/Forms/Business/CompanyReportPage_Expository.aspx?CompanyID=13131294

No. of Cmpl Type of Response

13 Making a full refund, as the consumer requested
3 Making a partial refund
29 Agreeing to perform according to their contract
1 Refusing to make an adjustment
7 Refuse to adjust, relying on terms of agreement
** 0 Unanswered **
0 Unassigned

53 Total

DreamHost may not be interested in how they are percieved by their customers, but they OBVIOUSLY care about how they are percieved by the Better Business Bureau.

If DreamHost is neglecting you, the BBB may be the only way to get DreamHost to actually address your problem and respond as per their contractual obligation.

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The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.

Goooooooooooooood!… Thanks

@dape, the funny thing is that http://www.dreamhost.com works fine, but webmail, the panel, my sites etc. don’t. I have trouble seeing why globalcrossing would treat http://www.dreamhost.com differently from the others, the IP numbers are in the same /19, the routes are equal.

Service Temporarily Unavailable

The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.

haha they’re cancelling my account over a post I said.. I don’t care though, it’s my damn opinion cry babies.. Dreamhost fuckin sucks… support sucks… service sucks.. I’m putting my money up on Host Gator. I have a reseller on there for 4 or 5 months and they never wen’t down! There service is great too. See ya later.

P.S.,
Your service still sucks and I still do mean what I said about Marie assholes :).

Oh, and dreamhost do now seem to be aware of the connection troubles plaging European users, but they seem to be blaming globalcrossing for the moment. Which I think is unlikely, seeing as the traceroutes for www and panel are the same up until they hit the new dream network.

wouter - No, look at the traceroute. See the “gblx.net”? That’s Global Crossing. The last time this happened, it was a local event that affected a large amount of GBLX traffic on the West Coast of the US. Unfortunately, there is little redundancy in the international backbone - there are in effect only 4 providers, and they are subject to geographic restriction.

I am constantly amazed by the snap judgments that some people make that every access problem they have is the fault of their hosting company. This is at least the third time in the last year that there have been large numbers of complaints from customers located outside the US that their sites were “down” when they were accessible from other countries. The last two times the problems were with backbone providers unrelated to DH. My bet is that this is the same thing this time.

haha they’re cancelling my account over a post I said.

Good. It’s nice to see they care enough about their employees to not let a little punk like you abuse them. Grow up, kid, or you’ll find that this won’t be the last company that shows you the door.

^^ Calm down tough guy.. “J”, we all know you’re a clown from the support team. My opinion still stands as it is.

Another day, another Dreamhost disaster. Good going, guys!

OMG WTF. How long it may take?

16 hours later … still no sites available - might I bring up the idea of ‘compensation’ for all those affected? If I mess up at work I have to work my arse off to ensure all are satisfied it won’t happen again. If it does, then no bonus for me!

Please HOW LONG?

My FTP is extremely slow. Uploading a file at 1.5KB/s what´s wrong ?

Yay… GC is being tempermental. Just FYI, the last time GC had problems, all the servers on the LimeLight network were incommunicado — so it’s not just DH that suffers when GC drops packets.

Just FYI, packets to my server (zeus), and my friends server (v8) are getting through just fine — so it really does seem that it’s only GC routes that are having issues.

Oh well. Best of luck guys.

aftee the last outage I was pretty pissed and decided I would look for another host. the problem is always though, how do you find a better host an dnot just get into the same problems? in which case it’s not worth making the move.

well, 2 downs in a week timeframe means it’s time to move on. ANYTHING I’m sure is better I think I’ll try 1and1 dedicated, meditemple seems to not have it’s self together either.

I wish you luck dreamhost but it’s clear yu’ve become the registerfly of hosting, you just can’t seem to figure out what you need to make things work.
I hope you hire the right talent soon, it takes alot for people to leave, but once they do, they do. the bug has been in the back of my mind for a month now and it’s clear I was right. it sucks to move, it’s alot of work, but it’s better than staying. I hope you get it figure out, I’d like to one day again refer people, but for now, I’ll be referring people away from you like the black plague. accidents happen, but there are othe rpeople having less accidents,.. that’s simply the way it is, maybe instead of makign fun or light of those companies in your blog, you need to put your egos aside and sit down and ask 9the few who run their own networks) what you should be doing. I’m sure overselling will come up in the conversation as to what you should not be doing. perhaps if you want to host THAT many site, run 2 different buildings. ligthen the load and buy more hardware. I relaize you’re trying but it’s clear you’re just to big and you guys just can’t cope.

Folks,

I’m a HAPPY DH customer for the last 4.5 years. I’m having minor issues, that I’ll attempt again on the morrow, since what I have to do is non essential to my business. I mean, kids its only the internet. DH overall does a great job and to those who whine, abuse tech support, and cause problems, may you honestly get what you deserve.

Sincerely
Pete
AKA Crazedcamel

thanks for belittling everyone Crazedcamel. I’m sure if someone sliced open your tires so you couldn’t get to work in the morning you wouldn’t say “it’s only my car”. to some of us the internet is more than just a toy that’s there for us “kids” to play around on. but thanks.

August 22nd, 2007 at 11:21 pmeelco menkveld Says:

36 hours no email, websites down. Since I cannot contact DH, what can I do?

I cannot access my blog nor my admin site and also I cannot contact you guys
I contacted your support@dreamhost.com email but I got an automatic reply that says that since I did not submit it through the panel on your site, then it was not delivered

WHAT CAN I DO???

When will it be solved? should I be worried?

some people are complaining about not being able to access my aggregator. up until a few hours ago, i couldn’t access it myself. there are still complaints coming in about it.
what should i do to solve this?

my vbulletin cannot be accesed. The trick I found is if I put a space in front of the index.php it works fine. So it looks like this. %20index.php

Thats weird. Hope this problem is fixed ASAP

WOOT! THIS ONE DIDN’T EFFECT ME! HA!

August 23rd, 2007 at 12:21 amstill off-line Says:

Well it’s getting shitty now… Customers become rude and nasty now so the only thing I can do is to swich the operator. Most of them use the polish telecom infrastructure (TPSA) and all my services are not accessible from there.

Goodbye DH

Funny thing is, my sites are blazingly fast today - the way they should always be, that would be _Dream_host. Anyway, maybe this is related to all the people who are locked out and can’t access their sites due to some strange routing problem.

I am back on for now
Thank you DH :)

Two of my sites are still inaccessible from mainland Europe (my main two sites awkwardly enough), the other two sites I can access with no problems at all. The FTP is still down so I can’t do anything still. This is over 24 hours that I have had no access. Any idea how long it will take for Global Exchange to sort out the routing?

34 hour of problems right now. FTP is still not working. Luckily email and WWW are. I have already started thinking about changing provider.

Lost all websites on my space day before yesterday and mail..got mail back but now no main website ( mine) but have got access to the two DNS nameserver changed and hosted co.uk websites I host for ffiends….so looks like only the DH hosted and registered the problem…which doesn’t help me…I patient but three weeks of this and I will have to move myself and friends on as cannot deal with losing mail too:-(

Fingers crossed that it all gets sorted - prepared to wait for a proper fix…

@brasscrest: the traceroutes for http://www.dreamhost.com and panel.dreamhost.com ARE IDENTICAL THROUGH GBLX. The difference in routing between www and panel DOES NOT OCCUR in the gblx part of the traceroutes, it occurs within the newdream network. Which makes sense, after all, they are IP numbers in the same netblock, being routed the same way. Why would .140 be routed differently than .131 ? It makes no sense!
But, if I do a succesful traceroute to http://www. and to panel. from a US based host, what do you know there IS a difference in routing. BUT, this difference occurs WELL WITHIN the new dream network (which would make sense, since both IP numbers are within the same AS, so outside of that AS, like, say, in the globalcrossing AS, there shouldn’t be any difference, and there isn’t).

succesful traceroute to www :
8 NEW-DREAM-NETWORKS-LLC-Los-Angeles.ge-0-1-0.410.ar1.LAX3.gblx.ne (64.215.183 .50) 75.282 ms 138.819 ms 76.110 ms
9 dreamhost.com (66.33.201.141) 74.970 ms 75.132 ms 74.843 ms
10 dreamhost.com (66.33.201.141) 113.994 ms 75.818 ms 75.572 ms

succesful traceroute to panel:
8 NEW-DREAM-NETWORKS-LLC-Los-Angeles.ge-0-1-0.410.ar1.LAX3.gblx.ne (64.215.183.50) 75.671 ms 75.616 ms 75.847 ms
9 panel.dreamhost.com (66.33.201.130) 75.459 ms 75.348 ms 75.532 ms
10 * * panel.dreamhost.com (66.33.201.130) 75.987 ms

unsuccesful traceroute to panel from EU:
10 168 ms 168 ms 167 ms NEW-DREAM-NETWORKS-LLC-Los-Angeles.ge-0-1-0.410.ar1.LAX3.gblx.net [6
4.215.183.50]
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 * * * Request timed out.
etc. etc.

succesful traceroute to www from EU:
10 285 ms * 337 ms NEW-DREAM-NETWORKS-LLC-Los-Angeles.ge-0-1-0.410.ar1.LAX3.gblx.net [6
4.215.183.50]
11 165 ms 164 ms 168 ms dreamhost.com [66.33.201.141]
12 173 ms 165 ms 164 ms dreamhost.com [66.33.201.141]

I get 0% loss pinging http://www.dreamhost.com 100 times. Pinging the panel? 100% loss.

Now, which is more likely;
- either some router (listed above, either the opentransit or
globalcrossing ones, since other ISPs than euro.net have the same trouble,
so it’s a small list) is miraculously routing every packet along the same
path to one IP (www.dreamhost.com) without fail, and dropping all those
that go to the other IPs, except ICMP packets because those do come
through, no wait, except the ones from deep within the newdream network,
because those don’t, or
- some router or loadbalancer within the new dream AS is misconfigured,
and doesn’t like some European IPs talking to webmail, ssh, etc.

Seeing as globalcrossing aren’t concerned with individual IPs, but simply route traffic to newdream if it’s in the relevant netblock (as you can clearly see in the traceroutes, the new dream router is reached!) it must be some appliance at dreamhost. Seeing as it’s got multiple machines claiming to be the same IP number, my bet is on a loadbalancer of some kind.

Even if it was globalcrossing (which it is probably not) I’m sure globalcrossing would sort it out in no time, since dreamhost is a paying customer of theirs (see that router with both new dream and glbx in the hostname?)

The fact that dreamhost are blaming someone else for a problem that has every indication of being within their own network, or at BEST is not confirmed to be their own (or any one else’s) pisses me off. When I first reported the trouble, their idea of a fix was to tell me to reset my modem, and if that doesn’t work, use a proxy?? Then they went on to blaming globalcrossing. Sure. Until I see a globalcrossing employee confirming the problem is on their end (remember, new dream is a paying customer, they shouldn’t have any trouble getting an apology out of gblx, IF it is gblx’s fault) I’ll assume, based on the evidence, that it’s a problem within dreamhost, or at least their resposibility.

Well it’s getting shitty now… Customers become rude and nasty now so the only thing I can do is to swich the operator. Most of them use the polish telecom infrastructure (TPSA) and all my services are not accessible from there.

Still blaming the web host for other people’s lack of uptime. Classy. Were you one of those people screaming that your customers bitched at you when DH broke something?

well I can access my http://www.chalkfishdesign.com
domain on my server space but still not my main websites ( original package registered domain and space one)
so I haven’t got a clue what going on….

hope DH or Global whetever do because I sure would like that main .com website back someday:-)

hello,

there’s some problem with:

NEW-DREAM-NETWORKS-LLC-Los-Angeles.ge-0-1-0.410.ar1.LAX3.gblx.net

I can’t connect 50% of my sites - when trying to connect from EU !
all of my sites are accessible from US

THERE IS SOME ROUTING PROBLEM

PLEEEEASEEE FIX IT ASAP, PLEEEEEEAAASEEEE

@James:
Still blaming the web host for other people’s lack of uptime. Classy.

Hmm, seems to me the only one in a position to do anything about anything (dreamhost) is the one blaming other people (globalcrossing) even though dreamhost are a paying customer of globalcrossing’s. That’s not 6 steps removed, they have a unique, paying-money, relationship with globalcrossing. As such, it’s dreamhosts responsibility to get their sub-contractor to perform. (Not that I’m convinced it’s gblx’s fault, but if it isn’t, then the ball is back in dreamhosts court anyway).

August 23rd, 2007 at 3:19 amstill off-line Says:

Please - anyone from DH support team - post here at least some short info what’s the current status and how long it’s gonna be like this…

24 hours later still the same problems and indeed they are blaming it to other people! :-(

@still off-line

I asked them many times but they don’t. Its a shame!

This is getting a little out of hand, now I can’t access pop3 mail servers.

And again they are blaming someone else:

Well, if you are using clamato.dreamhost.com as the hostname for accessing FTP, it’s probably taking a different
route to the server, and skipping the bad hop. I wish there were something we could do about this, we do care, but
we have no control over it, unfortunately.

The problems began by the networking-problems not ba a bat hop.

This is fun:

When I ping tea.dreamhost.com, the server on which my website is located, I get an average ping of 182ms. When I ping the domain of my website directly I get an average of 164ms. Again, I live in Germany and I can reach my sites without problem. But this difference in ping time is very strange.

So I did a traceroute to my domain:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms localhost [192.168.1.1]
2 10 ms 9 ms 11 ms dslb-084-061-000-001.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.0.1]
3 10 ms 11 ms 10 ms esn-145-254-12-213.arcor-ip.net [145.254.12.213]
4 15 ms 16 ms 16 ms ffm-145-254-18-221.arcor-ip.net [145.254.18.221]
5 16 ms 16 ms 16 ms ffm-145-254-16-178.arcor-ip.net [145.254.16.178]
6 16 ms 13 ms 14 ms so-2-0-0.ar2.FRA2.gblx.net [67.17.134.113]
7 164 ms 162 ms 164 ms te2-1-10g.ar3.LAX2.gblx.net [67.17.108.154]
8 166 ms 164 ms 260 ms NEW-DREAM-NETWORKS-LLC-Los-Angeles.ge-0-1-0.410.ar1.LAX3.gblx.net [64.215.183.50]
9 165 ms 165 ms 162 ms apache2-fritz.tea.dreamhost.com [208.113.170.175]

And this is a traceroute to tea.dreamhost.com:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms localhost [192.168.1.1]
2 10 ms 10 ms 11 ms dslb-084-061-000-001.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.0.1]
3 10 ms 10 ms 9 ms esn-145-254-12-213.arcor-ip.net [145.254.12.213]
4 14 ms 15 ms 14 ms ffm-145-254-18-221.arcor-ip.net [145.254.18.221]
5 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms ffm-145-254-16-38.arcor-ip.net [145.254.16.38]
6 14 ms 17 ms 15 ms ge-2-3.r01.frnkge03.de.bb.gin.ntt.net [213.198.77.137]
7 16 ms 16 ms 16 ms xe-1-1-0.r21.frnkge03.de.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.12]
8 21 ms 23 ms 22 ms as-0.r23.amstnl02.nl.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.22]
9 122 ms 121 ms 120 ms p64-1-1-0.r20.asbnva01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.252]
10 119 ms 120 ms 122 ms ae-0.r21.asbnva01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.17]
11 156 ms 156 ms 156 ms p64-3-1-0.r20.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.24]
12 * 161 ms 160 ms as-0.r20.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.130]
13 161 ms 163 ms 161 ms ae-0.r21.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.25]
14 195 ms 208 ms 200 ms as-1.r21.lsanca03.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.121]
15 204 ms 202 ms 200 ms po-2.r00.lsanca03.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.250]
16 200 ms 214 ms 198 ms xe-1-1.r00.lsanca17.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.7]
17 179 ms 184 ms 183 ms xe-1-3.r00.lsanca17.us.ce.gin.ntt.net [206.183.201.162]
18 181 ms 179 ms 185 ms border1.po1-bbnet1.ext1a.lax.pnap.net [216.52.255.31]
19 183 ms 297 ms 193 ms newdream-1.border1.ext1a.lax.pnap.net [216.52.220.78]
20 181 ms 182 ms 183 ms tea.dreamhost.com [208.97.171.16]

What a mess? Why this very different routes to the _same server_ ?

Again, I live in Germany/Europe an can reach my sites. But still, this routing amazes me.

August 23rd, 2007 at 4:01 amstill off-line Says:

This is a traceroute to one of my domain hosted at DH

First traceroute is from Poznan, Polan, Europe (BAD)

1 26 ms 3 ms 4 ms 10.0.0.2
2 24 ms 14 ms 14 ms poz-ru5.neo.tpnet.pl [213.25.2.52]
3 24 ms 22 ms 12 ms z.poz-ru5.do.poz-r2.tpnet.pl [80.50.158.141]
4 * * * Request timed out.
5 * * * Request timed out.
6 42 ms 50 ms 42 ms te10-2.fftse1.FrankfurtAmMain.opentransit.net [193.251.241.249]
7 43 ms 42 ms 42 ms 193.251.247.70
8 190 ms 188 ms 189 ms NEW-DREAM-NETWORKS-LLC-Los-Angeles.ge-0-1-0.410.ar1.LAX3.gblx.net [64.215.183.50]
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 * * * Request timed out.

Second traceroute is from Delaware, USA (GOOD)

1 * * *
2 GE-2-37-sr01.lewes.de.bad.comcast.net (68.87.169.33) 22.389 ms 12.426 ms 15.192 ms
3 te-9-3-ur01.georgetown.de.bad.comcast.net (68.87.168.25) 9.550 ms 11.467 ms 9.991 ms
4 te-9-4-ur01.milford.de.bad.comcast.net (68.87.168.21) 11.521 ms 13.233 ms 16.985 ms
5 te-9-4-ur01.harrington.de.bad.comcast.net (68.87.168.17) 12.229 ms 11.198 ms 12.026 ms
6 te-9-4-ur02.dover.de.bad.comcast.net (68.87.168.13) 11.548 ms 12.445 ms 12.203 ms
7 te-9-4-ar01.dover.de.bad.comcast.net (68.87.168.5) 13.835 ms 16.598 ms 11.498 ms
8 te-9-1-ar01.salisbury.md.bad.comcast.net (68.87.168.70) 14.981 ms 16.277 ms 15.486 ms
9 12.126.168.13 (12.126.168.13) 18.536 ms 17.519 ms 17.054 ms
10 tbr1.wswdc.ip.att.net (12.123.8.18) 19.094 ms 18.945 ms 22.509 ms
MPLS Label=31228 CoS=3 TTL=1 S=0
11 ggr4.wswdc.ip.att.net (12.122.84.157) 17.529 ms 21.087 ms 18.958 ms
12 192.205.33.34 (192.205.33.34) 20.662 ms 22.390 ms 23.582 ms
13 NEW-DREAM-NETWORKS-LLC-Los-Angeles.ge-0-1-0.410.ar1.LAX3.gblx.ne (64.215.183.50) 159.201 ms 85.040 ms 201.804 ms
14 apache2-heavy.katamari.dreamhost.com (208.113.179.127) 80.861 ms 82.792 ms 82.249 ms

I am not a network pro so I don’t know what’s wrong but whatever it is - it’s still making downtime

can sbd who can login into panel send ticket to admins?

August 23rd, 2007 at 5:04 amShaun Belcher Says:

Lordy lordy I got my main domain back and straight away one of the other domains gone flaky

maybe it part of hosting deal you have to play cat and mouse and only use those domains you can catch online ….

would be funny but it isn’t ….

is there a prixe of unlimited hosting for not losing the plot over this?
:-)

I can’t evet visit panel dreamhost beacause i get No Page !

Heh… now Panel DH not work ;/

Two of my sites is totally down, can’t send tickets cause i have not panel, dont have email…

hi all,

I have clients hosted with you and they are calling me to ask why the webs are not loading.

Pls fix this problem, cause i am paying as anyone else to do have a host that works.

I understand that everything can happen, but NOT TO YOU.

You sould have a back up copy and contract some one elses until you fix your…. YOU CAN STOP OFFERING SERVICES…..

I recived no email from you to advise and apologize that the host is down… that will be very niceee… and not a touch.

regards

If you’re in Europe you can use a proxy to visit your sites, I’ve even logged in to one of my blogs that needed updating though this isn’t very safe and I’ll have to change the passwords afterwards.

Here is a good web monitoring service for those who want to do more than just whine …

http://www.pingdom.com/

… and they have a fab scheme running right now!

August 23rd, 2007 at 7:30 amAla' Alsallal Says:

Please fix the problems asap!
My websites are down for a long time by now !
:(

http://www.dreamhost.com is down
drumstick.dreamhost.com is down
https://panel.dreamhost.com is down

dumdum.dreamhost.com is up but i was switched to drumstick 3 months ago.

Jesus Fucking Christ. Again?

Vaya PUTA MIERDA DE HOSTING. Sósi lo más chapucero que ha parido madre. Vaya puta mierda, de verdad. Si es que lo barato sale caro, qué gran verdad joder

please please please fix the problems quickly… I have a major web project due tomorrow for my company and they’re already yelling at me

August 23rd, 2007 at 8:28 amShaun Belcher Says:

I have just managed to read some of the info. at dreamhost blog. It a wonder following the DNS that ate itself routines that been happening that the DH guys got anything going..thanks for trying guys…

I think ( and a guy called Robert who on help desk at DH ..cheers…seems to agree ) that European problems may be being compounded because after DNS lost / changed a crap ISP like mine ( Orange fr) helps the process along by not updating dns often enough and caching everything throughput on ISP…not sure for certain BUT I called friends in Uk in same city here and they (different ISP’s) are getting my websites loud and clear SO IT NOT DH..

( it NOT my pc dns I flushed until i could flush no more and all TCP settings tweaked and correct)

DH may have started ball rolling with initial outage and dns problems but then our beautiful ISP cache monsters seem to be compounding the error…so blame where blame due?

If I wrong shoot me down in flames but I cannot believe this all DH fault….

I getting intermittent access now and webmail gone again….my ISP looks guilty…

Any other Brits having problems? Especially Orange ‘non-users’ like me?:-)

Damn if you think the service is THAT bad then move. I for one think DH is doing a great job, i’ve had my share of hosts and NOONE have had as few problems as DH. If you run such a big operation you’re doomed to have some problems. Fortunately they are very good at fixing them. And i read that someone said they should use more money on updates… Well unless you’ve got an internal source i bet they do updates all the time. with all plans going up at least 1 gb / week they gotta buy new servers all the time. So give them a break and sit back and relax. You raging on doesn’t stop the problems any faster..

My problems are over for the moment. Hopefully for everyone :-)

website works now… but my sql server still won’t respond… ugh

The complete ignorance of many of the posters above is not too surprising considering the state of American society and the USA education system, but what a loathsome method of self-expression when all you can do to say how you feel is use unnecessary expletives in badly constructed and semi-literate rants. Doesn’t any average Joe or Joanne in America have the capacity to express themselves articulately in decent English anymore?
Your ignorance is such that I wonder how you ever managed to build or run a website.
As to Dreamhost, I think it is a simple matter of fact that their reliability is much lower than other hosts, and since I have worked now or in the past with IPowerweb, GoDaddy, Yahoo, Lunarpages, and Europeregistry, I speak from knowledge.
If you don’t like DH and what it offers, instead of telling then they are shit and should fuck off, why don’t you take your own advice and go somewhere else?
R

my fucking site is down

what the fuck

@enrico - Your site is not down now (assuming that you mean the one that you linked).

My blog is still down. This happens a bit to often imo.

Hmm, seems to me the only one in a position to do anything about anything (dreamhost) is the one blaming other people (globalcrossing) even though dreamhost
are a paying customer of globalcrossing’s. That’s not 6 steps removed, they have a unique, paying-money, relationship with globalcrossing.

You have a unique, paying money, relationship with Dreamhost, but when their shit breaks, there’s nothing you can do until the people who actually have access to the broken/malfunctioning equipment (Dreamhost) actually get to fixing it. It’s no different between Dreamhost and Globalcrossing. However, coming back every couple of minutes to post an update that basicly says ‘We’re still waiting’ is not getting the issue fixed. Obviously, they know it’s happening. And, also obviously, they’ve performed the same multiple traceroutes as anyone here is capable of doing. Which means they more than likely saw the same packet stream termination points. And, just to prove I’m not pulling something out of my ass, my traceroute results from the DH server I’m using to one of the non-US hosts having issues that’s already been varified in the comments.
traceroute to 213.25.2.52 (213.25.2.52), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 ip-205-196-208-1 (205.196.208.1) 0.588 ms 0.541 ms 0.485 ms
2 ge-0-1-0.410.ar1.LAX3.gblx.net (64.215.183.49) 0.489 ms 146.82.32.57 (146.82.32.57) 0.348 ms 0.476 ms
3 ge7-4-10G.ar2.LAX2.gblx.net (67.17.110.1) 0.611 ms 0.470 ms 0.488 ms
4 opentransit-2.ar2.LAX2.gblx.net (64.215.195.54) 0.492 ms 0.723 ms 0.858 ms
5 * * *
6 * * *
7 pos0-6-5-0.auvtr1.Aubervilliers.opentransit.net (193.251.242.125) 166.925 ms 162.279 ms *
8 pos0-6-1-0.ffttr1.FrankfurtAmMain.opentransit.net (193.251.250.169) 158.391 ms * *
9 * * *
10 * * *
11 194.204.175.94 (194.204.175.94) 183.308 ms 187.880 ms 188.615 ms
12 ge-1-0-0.poz-r2.tpnet.pl (194.204.175.206) 195.523 ms 195.181 ms 187.268 ms
13 poz-ru5.neo.tpnet.pl (213.25.2.52) 191.156 ms 186.121 ms 183.220 ms

Performance is fine through the DN end of Globalcrossing’s network, then starts sucking as soon as it reaches opentransit.net. So, that means two things. DH can’t do a whole hell of a lot about it except scream at their hosts, much like you’re having fun screaming at yours, and you really neither have nor need any proof whether they’re doing that or not. And, DH is *probably* not the only one being affected by it. If it goes through *.lax.gblx.net, it’s probably being suckified. So, yell at Global Crossing. Yell at opentransit.net. Yell at AOL if it makes you feel better–I’m still convinced 95% of the internet’s problems can probably be traced back to them anyway. But, surprisingly or not, this is actually something DH had very little if anything to do with breaking. And if you’re still gonna say otherwise, then I’m sorry, but your internet usage license should be revoked for life.

So, network problems again?

I don’t have access to any of my sites, or the DH Control Panel.

Seems to be completely down again. What’s up?

It’s busticated again. Panel is down, mail is slow, forums are extremely slow, dreamhost.com takes minutes to come up, responses from my domains take minutes.

This is a hosting service? OMG, I will never host any site I am paying for on this host, given how well the one I am admining here works.

i absolutely LOVE launching my website on a day where DH problems are at their worst.

http://www.guitarvideotabs.com

hey, people make mistakes, hardware fails, traffic surges, etc.. there’s only so much we can do “venting” in this comments section.

Rod: Hey, nice way to generalize Americans you ignorant jerk.

I’m really getting sick and tired of all the down time. This year has been the worst. If they dont get this issue resolved that will be the end. They dont even send any e-mails to notifiy the customers of what is going on. I’m going to end my rant now.

I’m still having trouble accessing the panel and I have to make a payment next month.

oh my goodness..it’s happening again. it doesn’t seem like they found the root of the problem at all.

Hello Daniel,

The site should be up now, it was rebooted due to a network hiccup. Sorry
for the inconvenience. We do reboot the servers from time to time if it
becomes unresponsive, this is common practice for shared hosting.

Let me know if you need further support!
Thanks!
Phiya

Well… I can see my sites OK… but…

I use a forwarding email based on my hosted domain as my main contact email. Normally I get dozens of emails (mostly spam, but twenty or so legit) per day through it. For the past two days… nothing.

I REALLY hope this DNS thing resolves SOON.

Well, I can’t get to my mail or my site since 9:00 a.m. today PST. This is the longest I’ve been down. I would appreciate reading more of an update from DH than the first post that was posted a day ago. :(

Funny how this turned into a webhosting forum. If you’re looking for hosting, please turn to Webhostingtalk or some other board.

And for European hosts: I’ve heard of Servage, who seem to be cheap but offer a lot of space/bandwidth. Really no idea if they’re good or not.

Tried Site5.com and they have a good deal running atm, but DH still has the better panel.. shame the network sucks so badly now. Ended up moving to MediaTemple grid servers which so far seem very good. Only have a couple of sites left at DH and they will be gone soon too. Sorry DH, I like the idea of owner-operator and the happy-whatever-team etc, but with the HUGE customer base and thus large amount of money pouring in, the performance is a long way from being acceptable… in fact it’s becoming dismal. Bye.

WOOF!

Well, I have not been experiencing the web site downtime that anyone here has been experiencing since the problems last week. I have monitoring software that hits several pages of my website every 2 mins and if it skips a beat, I am notified by email (to several email addresses including outside of Dreamhost) as well as a text message to my cell. I have only experienced 1 notification in the past week since everything happened and was well within 2 minutes as the next monitoring interval recorded my site being back up…so that could have been my “own” internet connection that blipped and not Dreamhost.

I do not use email through Dreamhost…I run my own business and rely on a more robust solution. as a business owner, to me, whining is unacceptable coming from an owner…if you have a problem, deal with it, make smart business decisions, and move on. Email is important to me as a business and just do not see the logic in relying on “any” shared hosting solution as the “potential” for frequent downtime is unacceptable. I have no need, yet, to move to dedicated hosting, but the minute my business completely relies upon my website, you can bet I will move to a dedicated server. Plus, I’d rather not have all my eggs in one basket.

In any case, I have had a great experience with Dreamhost in my 10 years with their hosting. Have tried several others in that time frame and have not yet had any quite match up to Dreamhost. Love the admin panel. Love the complete control I have with the multiple domains I host at DH. Not a fan of Squirrelmail.

The moral of the story, if you run your own business or make your living from your website, you should be practicing good business sense and not put all your eggs in 1 basket and skimp your way along. Invest in the functions of your business that require high-availability.

I will be staying with DH. The fact they communicate so readily is refreshing. Plus, I have not had near the problems reported by people on this board.

Good luck to all of the ones leaving. However, why do people feel the need to try and pull business away from DH using their own forums? If you want to leave, just leave. Bye. See ya. This makes me wonder if these people are just so immature they have no control over their emotions and actions as a result…or they are working for the competition and/or have an agenda to make money from r