Network Outage
We are experiencing network problems at the moment. This will account for for downtime, delay, etc. that you are encountering when accessing your site, email, etc. Our Admins are currently working on the issue as I type. We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this has caused. Please check back for future updates.
UPDATE 10:39 PST
The network problems have been resolved. A DDOS attack launched on a customers site was the root cause of recent downtime. Again, we apologize the inconvenience this has caused and truly appreciate your continued patience and loyalty.
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October 26th, 2007 at 10:09 am
Good, finally the update.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:10 am
Go go Network 911!!
October 26th, 2007 at 10:10 am
“We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this has caused.”
I AM JUST TIRED OF READING THAT IN THIS PAGE
October 26th, 2007 at 10:10 am
Was just bout to report this, seeing how it’s been slow or the last 20 minutes.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:11 am
Are you freaking kidding me?!?! Again!!
October 26th, 2007 at 10:11 am
DreamHost… more like NightmareHost.
Who hosts dreamhoststatus.com? It seems to be always up…
October 26th, 2007 at 10:11 am
Well, all I can do is take lunch then.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:11 am
Again….is it me or Dreamhost pretty flaky! I’m finally getting some traffic to my site and now it’s down.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:12 am
thanks!!
around 20minutos of slowness
October 26th, 2007 at 10:12 am
“Who hosts dreamhoststatus.com? It seems to be always up…”
You’re not going to put your status website on the same server that may go down.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:12 am
this is really frustrating.
does this mark the 3rd or 4th time in the last 3 weeks? i’m starting to lose count.
today may mark the last time it happens because i’m searching for a new host, sad.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:12 am
Network down … Anger rising … Quantity of exclamation marks (following typical irate response) increasing …!!!!!!!!
October 26th, 2007 at 10:13 am
I’m starting to think moving to DH was a mistake.
Is it time to go looking again ?
October 26th, 2007 at 10:13 am
Lets call dr. House
October 26th, 2007 at 10:14 am
Very very slow turkey in web sites:(
October 26th, 2007 at 10:14 am
Wow, this is getting old old old. I have not even been a customer for a year yet and have seen WAY to many outages. You guys need to seriously re-evaluate your entire operations. This is just plain ridiculous.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:18 am
Trying to decide whether you guys at DH are A$$ Clowns or A$$ Monkeys. What a freaking joke…moving my stuff to someone else over the weekend…good luck to those of you who truly believe in DH…
October 26th, 2007 at 10:21 am
This seems pretty par for the course for Dreamhost. At one time, they were a great option for freelancers and small startups but the lack of reliability over the past 18 months can seriously damage one’s reputation with clients. We’ve been slowly (i.e. over the course of 2-3 months) migrating all of our web properties to Media Temple as time allows. Eventually we won’t need to deal with making excuses to clients all of the time.
Bottom Line: You get what you pay for and DH offers more than most at the price…but the downside is the reliability. If you are doing work for clients, I wouldn’t recommend DH for anything other than it’s seemingly great SVN service (usually fast as lightning.)
October 26th, 2007 at 10:21 am
My site performance has been going downhill for about the last month and a half. Lots of outages, lots of complaining forum members, super high load on the servers, horrible throughput, lots of timeouts. No real answers.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:21 am
I haven’t even moved live sites to DreamHost and they have had enough downtime that it has slowed development, even on a Private Server. Will be examining more closely DreamHost as our choice…with no phone support, the panel is down and there is no way to report issues except through this “not an official contact method” blog…
October 26th, 2007 at 10:21 am
The kid on the DH frontpage is sleeeping, can someone awake him up and tell him to do something?
October 26th, 2007 at 10:22 am
uff, problems again, here from Chile the navigation is ver very slow to some dremhost sites and my sites not working =/ also ns2.dreamhost.com is out of service
October 26th, 2007 at 10:24 am
“does this mark the 3rd or 4th time in the last 3 weeks? i’m starting to lose count.”
Try the second time in well less than 24 hours.
My favorite error msg so far is this one that I got when trying to get to the status page 5 minutes ago. That was certainly worked out quick enough.
Error establishing a database connection
This either means that the username and password information in your wp-config.php file is incorrect or we can’t contact the database server at mysql.dreamhoststatus.com. This could mean your host’s database server is down.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:24 am
I have 25 clients on DH. I should be expecting many many calls any minute now. DH is really pissing my clients off, not to mention ME as I recommended them!
October 26th, 2007 at 10:25 am
@SpencerThayer:
“You’re not going to put your status website on the same server that may go down.”
I’m not an idiot. I was trying to be sarcastic and suggest we all move our sites there.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:25 am
i`m starting to get bord with this host… to slow
October 26th, 2007 at 10:26 am
This is getting a little out of control.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:28 am
20 minutes passed … i guess they’re having lunch or something.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:32 am
You guys bellyache too much. This stuff happens with every host, and no matter how great it looks before you sign up, you still run into this. Web hosting is like a car; you purchase it (or make payments) but that doesn’t guarantee it will always work. Sometimes maintenance is needed. Get over it guys!
October 26th, 2007 at 10:32 am
Seems everythings fine for me again. Was only slow for like 30 minutes.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:36 am
“Wubwub Says:
DreamHost… more like NightmareHost.
Who hosts dreamhoststatus.com? It seems to be always up…”
Congratulations!!! You have been selected in our search for most unoriginal post ever in this blog! You have managed to post the SINGLE TWO most parroted phrases in ONE post, and with a totally straight web face as if you REALLY thought you were THE FIRST EVER to say either of those things!!!
Sorry, you did NOT get the bonus points you WOULD have gotten had you mentioned how much money you are losing right now, but since our Vulcan judges inform us that you DID THINK TO YOURSELF “That’s it, I’m going to MEDIA TEMPLE” you DO qualify for a parting consolation gift, NOT SHIT!!!
October 26th, 2007 at 10:36 am
Jesus, it’s just every few days, problems again. You always say you’re going to fix them for good but they always happen.
I think it’s about time to find a new host.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:40 am
@VOO:
Backstabbing someone in the same sinking boat as yourself? Classy.
I DIDN’T know THAT originality was a REQUIREMENT for comments posted HERE.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:41 am
Eh…
October 26th, 2007 at 10:42 am
90 minutes of network slowness.
This used to be a good hosting.
Any recommendations of good hosting services?
If this continues, i’ll move away.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:42 am
Well, when it happens 5 times per week, it means i am still paying for a broken car.
By “sometimes” i understand once every 3-5 months, not daily as it happens here.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:43 am
The biggest problem with Dreamhost is that they host too many crybaby faggots, making the comments section of this page useless.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:44 am
You know what’s weird guys - it’s that even when OUR sites are down, this forum is still up and going! Isn’t that wierd!
I think they should change their name to Nightmare Host - you know, instead of Dream Host.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:44 am
I’m almost of the opinion this is the same issue they didn’t fix yesterday; still can’t create databases or ftp in. Dreamhost.com wasn’t even accessible yesterday evening. DH get your act together. SERIOUSLY
October 26th, 2007 at 10:45 am
@Renee
I’ve never been on a host with this many problems. I’ve been on free hosts with less hassle and downtime.
If you don’t want to complain, then don’t. Last time I checked this stuff was being done out of the US, and in the US we do still have freedom of speech. You have the freedom to not read here if you don’t want to, and we have the freedom to reply to your stupid comments, which you have the freedom to make.
VOO, congrats on winning fanboy/girl moron of the afternoon award. Now go play in traffic.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:45 am
wait a minute… why is THIS site up and running, when OURS are not! Maybe they should change their name to BAD DREAM Host! Haha, get it? Kind of like Dream Host, but it is a Bad Dream instead of a good dream….
October 26th, 2007 at 10:46 am
RE: Well, when it happens 5 times per week, it means i am still paying for a broken car.
By “sometimes” i understand once every 3-5 months, not daily as it happens here.
It happens everywhere. Other hosts just hide it, or blame others, etc….. How many other hosts do you see with a status page where they let their sissy customers sit around and cry together?
If they were doing better, they’d have nothing to hide.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:47 am
So, Boo bitch, since DH don’t read this comments anyway, what would your little fucktard ass suggest happen here?
You should go play in traffic with VOO, there’s nothing more pathetic than someone whining about people whining.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:48 am
I gave Red’s mother a Cleveland Steamer while she was licking my nuts.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:49 am
I’m starting to like these outages. Reading the furious comments is great comedy.
Me, I took a break and made some lunch. I guarantee the DH people are working their proverbial ass off to fix this.
Lighten up, people.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:49 am
LOL.. that’s the best you can do?
Go back to your pathetic little existence, you’re not even worth my time or effort past this post. At least VOO crap is mildly entertaining, yours shows a lack of creativity.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:50 am
OK guys, why don’t we focus on some trivia… get some anger out….
Which President was shot directly in the face and survived?
October 26th, 2007 at 10:51 am
Hah, trick question! I don’t know if this happened or didn’t, but if Hillary becomes President, you know that mean mugged biotch could shrug off a shot.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:53 am
DreamHost? more like BOROPHYLL!
October 26th, 2007 at 10:54 am
Hey, is anyone still having trouble? All of the sudden we cannot SMTP out mail.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:55 am
BOROPHYLL! are you using this forum to sell meds? guess I could go find out what that word means…but that would mean leaving this fine forum….
October 26th, 2007 at 10:56 am
yes, still having problems. Feel compelled to constantly refresh all my sites until I see one, and then post meaningless comments here in the mean time
October 26th, 2007 at 11:00 am
“The biggest problem with Dreamhost is that they host too many crybaby faggots…”
I don’t know about you, but where I work at, we don’t even dream calling our customers “crybaby faggots”. I suggest the Dreamhost staff to stop these kinds of anonymous posts; or if they don’t come from Dreamhost, get a moderator to remove them immediately.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:00 am
Have you guys evn read the update? It wasn’t DH’s problem this time.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:02 am
“You guys bellyache too much. This stuff happens with every host, and no matter how great it looks before you sign up, you still run into this. Web hosting is like a car; you purchase it (or make payments) but that doesn’t guarantee it will always work. Sometimes maintenance is needed. Get over it guys!”
BULLSHIT!
The host I used before DH only had one major downtime while I was using them and that was on 9-11(their data center is in NYC). I switched to DH because of the price and for a while they were great, but things quickly went to shit. I don’t host any money making sites though so the price still keeps me here. My boss switched over to my old host on my recommendation 8 years ago and I can count the number of major outages we’ve had that entire time on one hand. We pay over $400/month for hosting and get way less disk space and bandwidth than DH offers and the web panel is clunky as hell, BUT they are RELIABLE.
You can get good hosting. You just have to pay for it!
October 26th, 2007 at 11:03 am
Just go watch Billy Madison.
What are you, 12? I don’t care what he’d suggest, but I’d suggest that people that have nothing intelligent to say, like you, learn the difference between having something to say… and having to say something. I guess this is the part where you reply with pointless insults & vulgarity because you think it makes you look smart.
Until you came along and started whining about people that whine about whining.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:03 am
Distributed Denial of Service, I am guessing? Hackers are pretty cool, except they jack up my business, which is the opposite of cool. I don’t know anything about hacking really, but if I did, I’d probably be sued several times over or in jail because I am kind of a jerk and I would use my powers to jack up people that mess with me. Like COMCAST! God I hate those guys.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:06 am
“Until you came along and started whining about people that whine about whining.”
That was kind of awesome. Well, I’m going to go throw some Jack into my coffee and come back even angrier in a while…
October 26th, 2007 at 11:09 am
BOOOOOOOOOO YYYYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I’m up.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:10 am
it’s been real, doods. back to work!
October 26th, 2007 at 11:10 am
If this was the real world…. if this DDOS attacker went and did something illegal that caused a Wal-Mart store to have to close for awhile, they would be headed to jail, fined and then sued after that. Lawmakers and authorities around the world have got to take the internet more seriously. The guy who did this should be headed to prison for a couple months.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:12 am
Is this why the panel is not working anymore too? Well, it is still on, but the CSS is not loaded.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:14 am
Try deleting your temporary internet files.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:22 am
Already tried that. That is not the problem, checked it on multiple computers…
October 26th, 2007 at 11:26 am
It is a denial of service type attack someone has done to someone’s site, which has caused this outage. Dreamhost can only do so much about attacks like this from hackers and the their ilk. I agree that that criminal charges should be more common place for such things, but from my understanding most of the times the hackers are not in the same country that the servers are they are hacking. So, laws may be against such things in the country were the server is, but the hacker is safe by being somewhere else.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:27 am
As I’ve worked for a few large sites (I work at Digg right now) I’m well aware of how hard it is to keep shit up and running when there are lots of servers with lots of requests, but seriously, this is getting a tad old. I’m also aware that my comments aren’t helping any, but it’s my only recourse. To be fair $7/mo. for 200GB of storage is an outstanding deal, but only if I can actually *access* said 200GB.
If I can be of any help debugging on my end don’t hesitate to shoot me an email. I’m sure you’re all very busy, so good luck and I hope amp.dreamhost.com is up soon.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:32 am
Yep, “1″, you’re so much better because you insult me, while telling me how unintelligent I am for tossing insults at someone who is tossing insults. LOL, pot-kettle-black.
Perhaps I should throw back to you about how pathetic it is to whine about people whining about people whining.
Next time, don’t do the same thing you’re all up in arms about someone else doing; it makes your point moot.
I don’t care if he whines, he’s got that right, just as I have the right to comment about his whining.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:34 am
@ Geert.
Some files may have been deleted with the attack, try reuploading the css, delete your temporary files again and test that.
If that doesnt work, then go to the actual url of the css like (mydomain.com/css/youcss.css), if its there their shouldnt be a problem, if there is reupload the file thats getting the css.
If none of that works, i really don’t have a clue.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:43 am
@daniel - I think that Geert meant that the CSS for the DH panel was not loading. It’s working OK now (at least it is for me).
October 26th, 2007 at 11:45 am
Many outages ago, someone posted a site where you can have your websites monitored for downtime and delays. I remember that it wasn’t free but it wasn’t nuts expensive either. Can anyone direct me to something like that?
Right now, all I have on DH is personal sites and test installations for software, but I’m about to start a small business and I need to know whether DH can give me anything close to the reliability I need, considering I won’t be able to afford anything but shared hosting for most likely 3-4 years.
I’ve been with DH for years now, and have referred a lot of people there, but I’m really getting concerned about the outages. All but the last two haven’t *seemed* to affect me, but since I’m not on my sites constantly and have almost zero traffic, I probably wouldn’t know, even if I’d lost mail. I know that all shared hosting providers have issues, but this seems out of line and I need to figure out all my options before I go live with my business sites.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:48 am
All of that, just to point out that you’re still whining about people that whine about whining?
There’s a big difference between pointing out that you don’t have anything intelligent to say, which you don’t, so it’s not an insult — and you calling people bitches, fucktards, etc… Or did you think that blurting out random vulgarities counted as saying something intelligent?
October 26th, 2007 at 11:53 am
If Dreamhost staffers spent more time improving their operations than dropping vulgar, neanderthal responses to naysayers, the naysayers wouldn’t have anything left to complain about. Then again if things worked around here they couldn’t call it Dreamhost anyway. Maybe Realhost?
October 26th, 2007 at 12:00 pm
You can’t be too bright if you think that’s Dreamhost staff.
If they were going to go through that trouble, don’t you think they’d just turn off the comments so people couldn’t say stupid things for them to reply to?
October 26th, 2007 at 12:05 pm
@TiredOfThis try http://www.pingdom.com
October 26th, 2007 at 12:07 pm
Yet, “1″, you must think it is ok to call people “crybaby faggots” which is what I was replying to. Do you often use double-standards? Or perhaps the problem here is, you are Boo, and you’re trying to go after me because I didn’t feel like playing your little insult game after the “licking my nuts” comment?
You are also one void of anything intelligent to say, yet you try to cover it by claiming the same thing about others. You obviously think going after someone who didn’t appreciate being called a “crybaby faggot” as something intelligent, which shows me the level you operate on. Look up the word hypocrite, it is one that describes you perfectly.
Keep shooting your ignorant mouth off, “1″. You’re no better than you accuse me of being. We do have one major difference, you think you’re right to insult and make unintelligent replies, but not others. As I said, hypocrite.
October 26th, 2007 at 12:22 pm
Wrong again. You were already calling people morons and telling them to go play in traffic before you replied to that. And now, you’re just trying to make it look like what you’re doing is okay because someone else did it?
You can’t even keep track of your own posts and you’re accusing me of being someone else? You need to re-read from the beginning.
In fact, you first attacked VOO for NOT being a whiner… before you went on to whine about people that were whining about whining.
How could I miss the intelligence in that pattern???
October 26th, 2007 at 12:34 pm
Who hosts dreamhoststatus.com? It seems to be always up…
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHA.
THAT WAS HILARIOUS…
and so true.
October 26th, 2007 at 12:36 pm
@TiredOfThis: If you want a reliable shared host, shell out the $18/mo for Pair Networks.
My sites that actually need to be up are there and on a VPS at ServInt. Dreamhost is good for “pictures of my cat” level stuff, but that’s about it. Sooner or later I’ll move all my mail elsewhere and then I won’t have anything even semi-important on Dreamhost any more.
October 26th, 2007 at 12:36 pm
Guys, lets drop this.
Its silly, nobodies going to win, lets forget if somebody is right or wrong.
We are all here because theres problems with the network, lets not go to offtopic.
October 26th, 2007 at 12:36 pm
Fire…
October 26th, 2007 at 12:40 pm
I’ve gotten great responses from Dreamhost support. Has anyone ever tried to just talk to them nicely? My sites were getting a little slow due to the database server being a bit overloaded. DH offered to move all my sites to a new DB server and it was so fast I didn’t even notice any downtime. I have another friend who has used them for over 10 years and she runs a $10,000/month business on her sites. She’s been very happy and that’s how I found DH. Not everyone is miserable here.
There are outages reported here regularly but with what appears to be 100s of servers, at any given day some of them are going to need repair and maintenance. It’s an issue of scale.
If you are a webhost running ONE server for 10 clients, then that one server shouldn’t go down that much. If you are a large webhost running 100s of servers then you are going to have downtime messages regularly because you have so many boxes to maintain. But for the individual user, you will not see as much downtime as is reported here. And I certainly do not. So get a grip, people. Just because repair messages are posted here regularly doesn’t mean the ship is sinking.
October 26th, 2007 at 12:42 pm
@TiredOfThis: or try SiteUpTime.com - they have a basic free plan and a few paid options - works great for me.
October 26th, 2007 at 12:42 pm
I know what I posted. See, unlike you, I’m not on a high and mighty kick.
VOO has a history of being a fanboy, and attacking/ridiculing those who have problems with DH, which is what brought about my comment to him. Perhaps you should read other postings here, huh? He has attacked me, and others, on other posts. Oh, and you should really quit trying to tell me why I did something, I didn’t make my comment to VOO because he wasn’t whining, I made my comment to VOO because he decided to be a jerk to someone who made a comment that was not directed towards him. Perhaps you’re the one that should re-read from the beginning.
While you’re at it, you can show me where I said what I was doing is “ok.” What I did was show that you only went after one person for something, instead of others that did the same; both of which posted before I did.
I know I’ve dipped into the realm of lesser intelligence, I frequently do that when others show they are on a lower level. I also stated in a reply, “You have the freedom to not read here if you don’t want to, and we have the freedom to reply to your stupid comments, which you have the freedom to make.”
At least I’m not a hypocrite who thinks I can do it, while no one else is allowed. That would be you.
While you continue to try and justify your hypocrisy, I have better things to do. People like you are fun for a while, but then the real world comes back into play. Thanks for the verbal spar, it was “fun.”
October 26th, 2007 at 12:54 pm
And whiners have a history of calling people that don’t whine “fanboys.” It’s as played out as “Nightmarehost.”
So, like I said, you insulted him for not whining.
Oh, you mean like the “faggot” post you said you were replying to, that wasn’t directed at you?
Again, that’s thinking something is okay because someone else does it. People that can think don’t rely on that logic.
I think you proved otherwise when (while whining about whining) you said that nothing is more pathetic than whining about whining.
I doubt it.
October 26th, 2007 at 12:55 pm
@1
You’re certainly not too bright if you think just anyone on the Dreamhost payroll would have the authority or access to turn off the comments. But perhaps this faux lapse in judgement is all just part of your ruse.
You and your friends are either shills or fanboys, but either way you’re just as annoying too. You’re either on the payroll, or your knees must really hurt.
October 26th, 2007 at 12:56 pm
@Stephanie: at which DreamHost servers are your websites hosted? Somehow it seems that you are insulated from all the stuff many/most of us experience lately. I fully understand a reboot of a server or something like that, but the problems we see here are in the core of things - routers and stuff.
A few years ago, an outage at DH was generally measured in seconds, maybe minutes, but now we consider it fast when it comes up in ‘only’ 20 minutes, instead of hours. And yes, I understand that there is not a lot you can do against a well organized, new type of DDoS attack - it happens in the new world, but so often it’s an operational or a setup problem that knocks out core functions for (almost) all of us. And even the people that pay way more than the $10 plan still get knocked out by that kind of ‘fun’.
DreamHost became DreamHoax in a way - they grew too fast and cannot maintain the reliability and speed they had in the past. It was a good enough service to host professional business sites. I still like their features, but I can’t do this much longer to the clients that I referred to DH, because then they won’t be my clients anymore.
October 26th, 2007 at 1:16 pm
You both need to go play in trafic. No one but the two of you cares.
October 26th, 2007 at 1:19 pm
First and foremost, i want to remind all of you that i coined the phrase “NightmareHost” almost 4 years ago, and i expect compensation for usage :p ANYWHO, i must say that around that same time I started hosting domains on GoDaddy, 1and1, and Rackspace and I must tell you that they are ALL far superior to NH - NH has been absolutely plagued by issues for the better half of three years and counting. YES, they have friendly support staff (when they can be reached)…YES, they used to be a great hosting provider (in the days prior to google :p)…and YES, they love to keep people informed of their internal downtimes (which often I wish they would spend more time shutting up and fixing what ails rather than telling us about it) - For the old timers in here, I personally think the ‘code monster sale’ was the beginning of the end for this company’s reputation. Pre-code monster sale, all was well, post-code monster sale and all the sales/giveaways/addons/etc/etc/etc they have been lousy. Before an apologist steps up to me about ‘why I am still hosting with NH’ - it is simple…I have a blog that receives a fairly good amount of traffic - bit of a bandwith hog - however it is personal NOT BUSINESS and therefore, I really don’t care much if it is down for any length of time. ALSO, i have to admit, i keep holding on ‘false’ hope that someday NH will once again morph back into DH
October 26th, 2007 at 1:21 pm
There was a period of downtime the other night (with the nameserver issue) which lasted maybe an hour and a half. It’s been fine since then. I don’t expect 100% uptime from a host. The last two hosts I had were absolutely horrible and their support was indifferent at best.
One was on a VPS that was pretty darn expensive. I had been a customer for years and they never bothered to notify me that they lowered their prices - they were happy to continue charging me until I found out and asked for a refund. On that expensive server the box was crashing first once a month and then once every few weeks where it would be up or down for days. They said they were replacing the hard drive and then didn’t do it and it still kept on crashing. They were also going through a buy-out, which is when their service went to @#$@. So I got off of there.
The other one would have outages that would last a week or more of up and down crashing. Support didn’t respond quickly, there were no updates, and this was also more expensive than DH (though only about $30/month). I got 1/100th of the space and bandwidth. I asked for a refund on part of my month of hosting for a week of downtime and the billing people didn’t even bother to respond to my ticket at all. They didn’t even seem to care whether they had my business or not and I was sending some pretty “loud” emails (you know the kind that have all caps in them).
All told, DH has been much more friendly and reliable than other places I have been. With support being so helpful to me personally, I have no reason to move whatsoever.
October 26th, 2007 at 1:46 pm
Thanks for the site stats advice, everyone, I’m going to check them out and try to see just what kind of uptime I’m really getting.
I’ve always been happy with DH’s customer service, they’ve always been pleasant and helpful. Right now I’m more than a bit peeved that they don’t have a way to contact them when the panel is down, and while yes, I want them working on the problem instead of blogging about it, at the same time when we have no way to contact them to notify them of a problem, and panel’s been down for 2 hours, I want to at least know that they know about the problem and are working on it.
Ultimately, it comes down to numbers, and if they can’t keep my sites up a reasonable amount of time and make sure my email gets to me, I can’t stay with them no matter how much I like them. I understand everyone has downtime, shared hosting is like that. But it needs to be reasonable, and they really need to do something about another way to notify them about a problem when the panel’s not responding. Great customer service isn’t great if you can’t find them when you need them.
October 26th, 2007 at 1:51 pm
Awww… did the truth make your little brain hurt?
Again: Do you think if Dreamhost had a problem with the comments, they wouldn’t just turn them off? Or delete them? It’s not hard.
Or do you seriously believe that mere mortal employees without comment deleting super-powers are really going out of their way to make more work for themselves?
Use your head. Why would any company pay people to do what they can easily prevent for free?
Using your own lack of logic, I could turn around and say that you, and every other whiner here, are just shills for other hosts. You can’t make your own businesses look good, so you come here to bash the competition.
But you would probably think that was stupid, right? Now you know how you sound to everyone that doesn’t whine about every time a budget host has downtime.
Hey, look! Another whiner whining about whining!
October 26th, 2007 at 1:56 pm
I would just like to express my extreme enjoyment that 1 and Red have provided me (and 2 with a proverbial backstab on 1 in the dying seconds). This whole ‘ruse’ has finally answered: “what to do when your site goes down?”
But lets end this all on a good note. For your viewing pleasure:
http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1771556
October 26th, 2007 at 1:58 pm
P.S. I didn’t want to ‘declare a winner’ but … 1 was def more convincing.
October 26th, 2007 at 2:40 pm
… An attack is an attack, it’s not really the lack of DH. There isn’t a great defense for DDOS attacks. (Or never accept any handshake request… but you won’t have a web anymore ;D)
October 26th, 2007 at 2:41 pm
Rofl, if you guys have such big beefs with DH’s service, you can:
A) Setup your own server and host your own domain and deal with any and all problems that arise out of your own pocket with no one to blame but yourself and your own ineptitude
B) Move your shit to a different, more expensive host. You get what you pay for, right? Since most of you are only paying between 8-10/mo for DH, what did you really expect? Breakfast in bed? Get over it. It’s cheap for a reason.
C) Host your shit on an entirely free host, such as geocities, or maybe ever FREEWEBS. Then you can run your worthless e-”businesses” and complain to them when something screws up, as always tends to happen with electronics. Lord knows a serious internet entrepreneur wouldn’t host on something like DH, but I don’t think any of you quality as such.
October 26th, 2007 at 2:56 pm
Too much common sense in that post… no way it’ll fly here.
October 26th, 2007 at 3:03 pm
“It’s cheap for a reason.”
thats perfectly what hapens…
October 26th, 2007 at 3:03 pm
It’s cheap for a reason.
new dreamhost slogan
October 26th, 2007 at 3:17 pm
It’s not a slogan. It’s common sense.
Do you think Google is hosted on a $7/month shared account?
If a cheap shared hosting account was a one-stop solution for everything, there wouldn’t be such a demand for dedicated servers, redundancy setups, etc.
October 26th, 2007 at 3:18 pm
For those of us that are happy Dreamhost customers, we should try to get in here as soon as possible to put a notice at the top that says something to the effect of :
“Please ignore the stupidty and inane comments posted below about how horrible Dreamhost is. This is only a small percentage of their customers and while there are some who are disapointed, many would gladly take DH over other Web-Hosts.”
Anyone up for it?
October 26th, 2007 at 3:21 pm
Oh…and I’m really truly upset now…I feel like I’m missing out on something. I’ve had absolutely 100% No problems with Dreamhost.
October 26th, 2007 at 3:33 pm
“Lord knows a serious internet entrepreneur wouldn’t host on something like DH, but I don’t think any of you quality as such.”
I happen to manage some of The Lord’s own sites here on Dreamhost, and He is one of the top TWO most serious internet entrepreneurs in the entire Universe… The Lord sees far more value in His web presence than mere uptime. He has always tried to help people to understand that it is unwise to only see the surface of any given thing or situation and as such likes everything that He does to mirror His wisdom in metaphor. Remember… mysterious ways folks, mysterious ways.
October 26th, 2007 at 3:34 pm
VOO - I think it’s interesting that the two of us don’t really complain about DH, and we both manage some of the Lord’s own sites. lol….just an interesting thought.
October 26th, 2007 at 3:36 pm
@Tim.
Me too, i think i’ve had roughly 3 downtimes since joining DH in early july. All of them lasting a hour each.
I’ve been doing testing since around august and my sites going live in 6 days. I’m not concerned about the downtime at all, it doesnt last long and its not that often, in my opinion anyway.
I’m gonna stick with the plan im on now till next july and then probably upgrade to a expensive plan.
I think the support at DH is unlike any other, what other host gets back to you in like less than 6 hours? What other host finds a serious problem and fixes it within 24 hours? And what other host offers plans this cheap and insane bandwith and disk limits?
None. DH is far superior to all other hosts than the few other gems that exist unknown to me on the net.
October 26th, 2007 at 3:39 pm
Quote by TiredOfThis
“Right now I’m more than a bit peeved that they don’t have a way to contact them when the panel is down,”
Hmmm…I’ve always found that they send me direct emails…and all I have to do is reply to those emails to contact them.
October 26th, 2007 at 3:43 pm
I like the quote on your homepage, Daniel:
“Speaker Games, with it’s well written programs and SERVER” very nice little advert for DH, unless you’re hosting that on something else.
Can’t wait till your site goes live, too. I’d like to check it out!
October 26th, 2007 at 3:44 pm
I’m the same as the guys above. After around 6 months my downtime has been minimal, and overall have a 99.80% uptime rate! Maybe I’m just lucky, but for me, DH has been the best host I’ve ever had… and I’m a bit of a host slut…
October 26th, 2007 at 3:48 pm
Porco il dio musulmano ! vi prego ripristinate i miei siti!
October 26th, 2007 at 4:33 pm
Glad you guys solved it. Still a happy dreamhost customer!
October 26th, 2007 at 4:54 pm
Hey! Look! Another winer who doesn’t know when to drop it! If you two wanna continue slinging mud at one another, exchange email addresses or something. Still, you two are the only ones who care.
October 26th, 2007 at 6:00 pm
http://www.montastic.com
October 26th, 2007 at 6:17 pm
Yet another DREAMHOST outage.
I’m tired of all these OUTAGES, that’s why I decided to move to HOST GATOR, the best hosting service in the USA!
http://www.hostgator.com
If you want another hosting services, here are the best:
http://www.hostnine.com
http://www.site5.com
http://www.bluehost.com
DREAMHOST never more in my entire life!
October 26th, 2007 at 6:34 pm
No, you still care and you’re still whining about it. Congratulations!
Let me guess… you’ll post/whine some more? And that will be your idea of dropping it?
October 26th, 2007 at 6:36 pm
Gotta love how the spammers ALWAYS spam the worst hosts out there.
Hostgator - Same 404/suspended page crap as Lunarpages.
Hostnine - Tons of complaints since they released their new plans.
Site5 - They haven’t been worth taking serious for two years now. They spend more time censoring customers than answering tickets.
Bluehost - Too easy. Are you even serious with this one? Enjoy the CPU limits!
October 26th, 2007 at 7:27 pm
thank for the links
October 26th, 2007 at 10:09 pm
Wow, I just signed up at DreamHost earlier today and it’s already down. I go to the site and find this status page and discover, much too late, that outages are a regular occurrence here. It shouldn’t be called DreamHost, it should be called something like… NightmareHost ™
October 26th, 2007 at 10:17 pm
@JustSignedUp
I wouldn’t worry too much. It has been annoying just recently, but in all the time I have been hosting with DreamHost (1 1/2 years) the downtime has been quite minimal. I really don’t think they are any worse than other hosts out there, in fact they are better for at least telling you what is going on, most of the time. I think most people expect far too much.
Just look at that big host that advertised 100% uptime, the one hosting craigs list and others. Power grid goes down and multiple generators don’t fire up properly causing everyone to get dumped off the net.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:28 pm
Well, either DreamHost hasn’t acknowledged that my server is down or they’re too busy fixing things to post the problem on this status site.
@AndrewS - are you having any server problems right now?
October 26th, 2007 at 10:31 pm
btw, I host some sites at 1and1, but I thought I’d try DreamHost because I would like to create some cron jobs and use SVN. I can’t remember having major issues with 1and1 for almost 2 years
October 26th, 2007 at 11:11 pm
@JustSignedUp
No probs at all atm.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:19 pm
still have prob..wo……
October 26th, 2007 at 11:44 pm
Ok, my server, ‘electra’ is still down and I have had no word from DreamHost. I submitted a ticket a couple of hours ago and not even an email autoresponse.
October 27th, 2007 at 12:08 am
Sunnyd down too, please fix the servers that still have problems.
October 27th, 2007 at 12:15 am
Still having problems… Web Panel is down and so is everything else.
October 27th, 2007 at 12:17 am
Yup, Electra is down… the web panel too.
October 27th, 2007 at 1:14 am
More downtime… nearly every day
Events
(most recent first)
* 2007-10-27 03:22:56 : down
* 2007-10-26 01:03:41 : back_up
* 2007-10-26 00:36:13 : down
* 2007-10-24 00:16:22 : back_up
* 2007-10-23 23:51:49 : down
* 2007-10-23 22:41:22 : back_up
* 2007-10-23 22:06:52 : down
* 2007-10-23 03:30:15 : back_up
* 2007-10-23 03:09:25 : down
* 2007-10-22 00:31:42 : back_up
…
October 27th, 2007 at 1:44 am
Web panel still down, i send support mail directly but this way take more time to answer, please fix all.
Regards.
Up time ftw!
October 27th, 2007 at 1:46 am
Argh! Another TimeOut for my FTP (on Catalina server) ! It’s like that for two days.
My WebSite is OK, WebPanel slow but OK.
I can ‘t however work via FTP, modify or upload files. I whenever disconnected before the end!
0,8 kb/s for a transfer at this time (it’s rather usual 25 kb/s) as I come to no problem download a file on my Website for more than 50 kb/s.
October 27th, 2007 at 1:50 am
Brutal. I paid for my account 12 hours ago and the server has been down for 4 hours, with no status update. I should have read the fine print in the service agreement more closely. It guarantees 99.9% downtime. NightmareHost(tm)
October 27th, 2007 at 2:00 am
At least Vincent’s site work.
@ JustSignedUp
I am with DH about 9 months, downtime sporadic. But in the last month this happen very very frecuently and more the weekends, at least for me.
Sunnyd still down.
No Web Panel.
No http://FTP.
October 27th, 2007 at 2:22 am
@ Aikora. Yes. It’s (very) slow, but it’s work. Cool for my visitors, but i can’t work at this moment. :/
I sympathize for those who had completely a down site. :/
October 27th, 2007 at 2:30 am
@ Vincent
Yes, i understand you. Today i planned upgrade wordpress but, like you, ftp does not work, so… And same situation the last week.
We need all working, site, ftp, panel.
We will hope tomorrow this ends. Regards.
October 27th, 2007 at 4:21 am
Seems that it happens more and more often…
I’m wandering… its time to switch to another hosting company…
October 27th, 2007 at 4:53 am
I purchased my dreamhost account just 1 hour back and i see that i cannot do ftp nor can i create a domain from the webpanel.
I am STUCK!
I had plans to get my site up in 2 days!
I am thoroughly disappointed with this!
October 27th, 2007 at 4:55 am
/sign
October 27th, 2007 at 5:06 am
I have about twenty domains hosted here and have been spared most of the outages over the last year, but none of my sites are available for the second day in a row.
I can’t submit a support ticket because the dreamhost web panel is down.
It’s the lack of communication that pisses me off, I’m paying for a service I’m not getting. I figure after being in this business all these years, you’d have yourselves protected from DDOS attacks, or at least have a plan in place to keep it from disrupting our service.
I’m sure this kind of thing happens everyday on other hosts, so why can’t you guys get it right?
I don’t need to hear from the whine patrol, I’ve paid for this privilege.
October 27th, 2007 at 5:40 am
If one of those 20 domains is the one linked to your name, it’s working for me. So you don’t need to join the winers club, either. Add this one to the list of people who don’t know how to diagnose their own connectivity issues.
October 27th, 2007 at 6:33 am
i swear this isnt totally fixed yet? my website has been going down for short periods of time over the last day or two as far as i can remember.
many times - now for aswell. ? ;\
October 27th, 2007 at 6:40 am
My sites are down for hours every day! By the way, i am still waiting for my DreamHost PS.
I am not THAT patient. This have been going on for to fucking many months!
I am on the silk server.
October 27th, 2007 at 7:23 am
my very important site about lemurs is down!!
how will people learn about lemurs!
oh yes…from the millions of other sites on the internet.
thats why I run a music blog. cause everyone else is doing it too.
October 27th, 2007 at 7:28 am
If you honestly think dreamhost can do anything about ddos attacks you need to read up on internets. Some of these comments are hilarious. Sure there’s little things they can do but I’m sure they’re doing it.
Such attacks are becoming more common by the day, and no matter how powerful your network is there is very little you can do to stop them.
Take a look at things like this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm_botnet
I moved here from a host that had downtimes of almost 2 days due to completely stupid issues that had nothing to do with networking and I was paying MORE. Maybe I’ll be complaining in a few months, who knows.
“I can’t submit a support ticket because the dreamhost web panel is down.”
Send an email.
October 27th, 2007 at 9:01 am
I have been patient through the outages, but 3 times in a week isn’t good. Each time my traffic plummets and takes a week to recover. I am going 1 step forward, and 10 steps back on dreamhost.
And, quit prematurely saying the problem is solved when it isn’t. It isn’t solved until it is fixed.
October 27th, 2007 at 9:05 am
since i last posted, i think my site has gone up and down twice.
its down again
October 27th, 2007 at 9:27 am
If you are interested in the effect the dreamhost outages have on traffic, take a look at my traffic trend in the past month. Click the name link.
I am seriously starting to look for a new host.
October 27th, 2007 at 9:47 am
“If you are interested in the effect the dreamhost outages have on traffic, take a look at my traffic trend in the past month. Click the name link.”
Studying that chart with intense attention to detail reveals that the outages seem to be trying to pull your site OUT of a NATURAL DOWNWARD TREND!!! I don’t understand how that would work, but going strictly on the data you have provided that’s what I’m seeing. Notice how each time BEFORE an outage, your site starts losing traffic, then shortly AFTER the outage it starts to climb!
October 27th, 2007 at 9:55 am
I see it as my site starting to recover from outages, but each time an outage occurs traffic recovery doesn’t occur as fast due to the unreachable URLs during outages resulting in drops in SERPs. As you can see from the first two outages, my traffic regains, but since the outages continue to occur, high ranking pages in SERPs are dropping to the 2nd and 3rd page.
October 27th, 2007 at 10:53 am
Where’s the guy that claims to be losing 2 billion dollars a minute during downtime? Why hasn’t he complained yet?
And for all you geniuses that want to move where dreamhoststatus.com is stored, just do a DNS lookup and you’ll find where to go. Please note that ALL the NS3.DREAMHOST.COM problems are that exact same hosting company.
October 27th, 2007 at 11:01 am
“Where’s the guy that claims to be losing 2 billion dollars a minute during downtime? Why hasn’t he complained yet?”
He’s still complaining, but only to himself because over at Media Temple Of The Devil there’s no outage blog or forum!
October 27th, 2007 at 11:40 am
Do the geniuses that throw out Nightmarehost like it’s something clever that they just made up, really think that it sounds any wittier than when the 400 people before you said it?
You paid for the privilege of being a whiny little crybaby? I thought you guys were just born that way and simply haven’t outgrown it in your 12 years of existence here on earth.
Where did you pay for the privilege to be a baby? Not at Dreamhost, because I only see web hosting accounts on their order page.
October 27th, 2007 at 11:51 am
(Note, I meant ns2.dreamhost.com problems. Not ns3)
October 27th, 2007 at 12:19 pm
Even today, more downtime! I don’t understand how this could be happening.
Events
(most recent first)
* 2007-10-27 12:14:17 : back_up
* 2007-10-27 05:48:14 : down
* 2007-10-27 05:26:18 : back_up
* 2007-10-27 02:47:38 : down
* 2007-10-26 04:09:00 : back_up
* 2007-10-26 03:50:14 : down
* 2007-10-26 03:31:00 : back_up
* 2007-10-26 03:13:03 : down
* 2007-10-26 01:59:52 : back_up
* 2007-10-26 01:41:05 : down
* 2007-10-26 00:42:13 : back_up
* 2007-10-26 00:20:47 : down
October 27th, 2007 at 1:54 pm
“I don’t understand how this could be happening.”
Perhaps your sites are being smote by The Lord for being shitty? I’ve been working on mine (I mean, His) all day today… working great.
October 27th, 2007 at 2:06 pm
Bill Gates: Are those alerts by any chance from DNSMadeEasy?
If so, I wouldn’t count on things being down half the time they say they are. I use their services… but I’ve literally gotten several downtime alerts from them while using the page they said was down.
October 27th, 2007 at 2:53 pm
thanks
October 27th, 2007 at 3:19 pm
NH Realists, please do not give the apologists the satisfaction of a response….they are merely promo code whores who host the most basic of html websites and spend their freetime (which is alot) defending their promo code pimpmaster - seriously, don’t give them the satisfaction of a response….I currently use: 1and1, GoDaddy, Rackspace-all with not even a blip in the past 2+ years….i will say, though, that even though 1and1 has 24/7 phone support - i would like to speak to someone other than Habeeb from the quickie mart who portrays himself as “Frank” :p - I only called them once though and it was for referring someone to them…had nothing to do with anything technical…..I would recommend the top 3 - I would only recommend NH for a wordpress blog or maybe a spam laden php forum :p
October 27th, 2007 at 4:51 pm
@NightmareHost -
How’s your PayToPost business going?
@Bill -
Check your monitoring service. I once found that my monitoring service was actually the cause of my site going down. (Note that this was not hosted at dreamhost, but self hosted with redundant hardware, multiple connections, multiple app servers - and this was a business that REALLY couldn’t afford downtime.
October 27th, 2007 at 4:55 pm
Why are you posting as Nightmarehost? Was WornOutCliche already taken?
That’s cute, trying to redefine whiner as realist. Spoken like a true “custodial engineer” or “petroleum fuel transfer specialist” that can’t accept their fate as a janitor or gas pumper.
Constantly complaining about something doesn’t have to be a reality, since the “realists” are free to leave any time they want. So, until that changes, the so-called-realists are still just whiners and just need to accept that.
“Nightmarehost” is almost as played out as grasping at the promo code argument–where there are no promo codes even being discussed or given out. I guess Dreamhost are the promo code whores, since they have a $110 code on the home page that beats any of the ones you could complain about. But don’t let reality keep you from sticking to your guns.
I guess you also didn’t notice that any of the hosts you spammed are CJ affiliates? Are you going to admit that you’re an affiliate whore, then? Why else would you be here promoting hosts that have affiliate programs? I get it… your logic doesn’t apply to you. That’s certainly convenient.
Also, keep ignoring the fact that promo codes give the money away–otherwise, you might realize your own argument has no point to it. Except for the tiny handful of non-affiliate hosts out there, NONE of them pay less than Dreamhost, because of promo codes. But again, don’t let reality get in the way of spewing nonsense. Even the $5 secondary referrals are nothing compared to the lowest paying affiliate hosts out there.
In the end, Dreamhost customers are still willing to recommend them for free and let the new customer have the payout as a discount. I guess other hosts can’t do that and NEED to pay their affiliates directly if they want them to promote their services. Ouch.
So the argument that people only defend them because of promo codes carries no weight at all. Go use it on another host’s site where all affiliates get all of the money and the customer saves nothing. Oh, wait, you can’t because a) they don’t let idiots puke nonsense all over their sites, and b) they won’t pass the payout on beyond their own hired guns.
The only reason it adds up at all is because of the volume Dreamhost does. Not that anyone signs up and is actually happy at Dreamhost since they only host around 600,000 domains — and we all know that all customers are forced to stay here against their will. Like reality, don’t let the numbers interfere with your logic either.
Yeah, Dreamhost is awful! Quick, someone notify the hundreds of thousands of happy customers and let them know that they’re really NOT happy and that they need to see the light like the small handful of whiners that can’t do the math!
By the way… Those other hosts have indeed had “blips in the past two years.” Are you lying about that, or are you lying about being an actual customer there?
In your next post, which I’m sure will be just as informative as your last one, please point out the Rackspace offer that would be comparable to a
October 27th, 2007 at 6:18 pm
Not sure why that cut off.
It ends with: “… a less-than-$10/month shared Dreamhost account.”
October 27th, 2007 at 8:02 pm
@Why
Unlike ALL of you, you will NEVER EVER SEE a promo code for any service attached to any post I ever do on the blog or in the forums or on any of my websites - that is left up to the promo code bitches (PCB)
October 27th, 2007 at 8:32 pm
@-1
[Why are you posting as Nightmarehost? Was WornOutCliche already taken?]
No, however, all of the other really good anti-DH ones were :p
[That’s cute, trying to redefine whiner as realist. Spoken like a true “custodial engineer” or “petroleum fuel transfer specialist” that can’t accept their fate as a janitor or gas pumper.]
How is that career of yours working out for you? I know it is hard work and I am sure that if you continue to work hard cleaning those floors and pumping that gas, you will eventually make more than an illegal alien. Eventually….
[Constantly complaining about something doesn’t have to be a reality, since the “realists” are free to leave any time they want. So, until that changes, the so-called-realists are still just whiners and just need to accept that.]
the ‘realists’ all left long ago, sonny - the only thing left on DH are blogs/forums/spammers and illegal download providers
[“Nightmarehost” is almost as played out as grasping at the promo code argument–where there are no promo codes even being discussed or given out. I guess Dreamhost are the promo code whores, since they have a $110 code on the home page that beats any of the ones you could complain about. But don’t let reality keep you from sticking to your guns.]
Wow, so well thought out….you have brought a tear to my eye you lil cheeky monkey…..tell you what, I will tell you the nick I use in the forums and you tell me yours and I GUARANTEE YOURS has a promo code sig at the end…dont worry, i wont let your pimp hit you anymore - you can be true to yourself now
[I guess you also didn’t notice that any of the hosts you spammed are CJ affiliates? Are you going to admit that you’re an affiliate whore, then? Why else would you be here promoting hosts that have affiliate programs? I get it… your logic doesn’t apply to you. That’s certainly convenient.]
Seriously, sonny, are you some sort of mentally challenged inbreed or something? What are you talking about? CJ Affiliates?? LMAO - I have ZERO, absolute ZERO KELVIN to do with promoting the hosts that i mentioned. I have never EVER collected a dime from any of them and i do not operate even one affiliate site……..I dont even allow adsense on my sites….I remember when the promo code whores were at least a semi-intelligent group, you are doing them a great disservice by simply opening your mouth.
[Also, keep ignoring the fact that promo codes give the money away–otherwise, you might realize your own argument has no point to it. Except for the tiny handful of non-affiliate hosts out there, NONE of them pay less than Dreamhost, because of promo codes. But again, don’t let reality get in the way of spewing nonsense. Even the $5 secondary referrals are nothing compared to the lowest paying affiliate hosts out there.]
A good hosting provider DOES NOT NEED TO GIVE AWAY THEIR SERVICES FOR NEXT TO NOTHING…..haven’t you noticed at all that ALL of NH’s problems just so happen to coincide with the next big promo code cycle?
October 27th, 2007 at 8:36 pm
@-1 2.0
[In the end, Dreamhost customers are still willing to recommend them for free and let the new customer have the payout as a discount. I guess other hosts can’t do that and NEED to pay their affiliates directly if they want them to promote their services. Ouch.]
My god, if you truly believe that - LOLOLLMAO - you cannot be that stupid…please tell me that you are receiving at least the bilateral referral commission? if not, may god have mercy on your BROKE ASS soul
[So the argument that people only defend them because of promo codes carries no weight at all. Go use it on another host’s site where all affiliates get all of the money and the customer saves nothing. Oh, wait, you can’t because a) they don’t let idiots puke nonsense all over their sites, and b) they won’t pass the payout on beyond their own hired guns.]
Run along sonny, you are in WAY over your head.
[The only reason it adds up at all is because of the volume Dreamhost does. Not that anyone signs up and is actually happy at Dreamhost since they only host around 600,000 domains — and we all know that all customers are forced to stay here against their will. Like reality, don’t let the numbers interfere with your logic either.]
The mere fact that every hosting provider I named holds at least TWICE the amount that NH hosts AND has better uptime numbers - is all the math you need to know…..NH has become merely an affiliate/family webpage host and that is fine if that is all you do; however, if you do eCommerce of any kind, NH’s reliability is not up to snuff.
[Yeah, Dreamhost is awful! Quick, someone notify the hundreds of thousands of happy customers and let them know that they’re really NOT happy and that they need to see the light like the small handful of whiners that can’t do the math!]
You are merely making generalizations - check the blog/forum comment counts - you will see that it isnt soo rosey, Ms. Barr.
[By the way… Those other hosts have indeed had “blips in the past two years.” Are you lying about that, or are you lying about being an actual customer there?]
Just as YOU seem to never had a problem with NH - I have NEVER had a problem with the hosts that I mentioned.
[In your next post, which I’m sure will be just as informative as your last one, please point out the Rackspace offer that would be comparable to a less-than-$10/month shared Dreamhost account.]
You NAILED the problem on the head - it seems like the $6/month peeps are the ones who are happy, and the people who have packages like the ’strictly business’ that I have are soo upset - i wouldnt give a crapola either if i was only paying $6/month junior.
Btw, the reason why your post was cut off was because at the $6/month you pay, you are limited as to how much you are allowed to comment on :p
October 28th, 2007 at 3:39 am
At least site work.
October 28th, 2007 at 6:06 pm
Yeah, 10 years of growth and over half a million domains… all spam & warez.
And of course, you don’t think they’re upstream provider would have a problem with that, if it even closely resembled reality? Naaaaa.
Two of the three hosts you mentioned are in the CJ program… that’s how they end up in top host lists. This isn’t exactly breaking news.
You promoted them here. Saying otherwise is like when spammers put “This isn’t spam” at the bottom of their spam.
That makes no sense. Using that logic, a good host shouldn’t have an affiliate program at all, since that means they need to pay people to “recommend” them.
The promo code makes no difference in what they pay out. Unlike all other hosts that just line the pockets of affiliates for doing their legwork, Dreamhost allows you to pass it onto the new customer.
If you’re willing to do that, then you are basically recommending them for free, which is far closer to an honest recommendation than one for a host that just has a standard affiliate program.
Twist it anyway you want. You can make more money with ANY other host that has an affiliate program… which is almost every host.
Their numbers have nothing to do with Dreamhost. The fact that Dreamhost continues to grow and is already one of the biggest hosts in the world would seem to indicate that you’re missing something.
But if you want to put more meaning into the numbers, then I guess there are only a few hosts better, but thousands of hosts that are worse. Doesn’t sound like much of a nightmare.
So, all those people hammering away at the disk space and bandwidth are just personal blogs and little forums? I never would have guessed that.
And 1and1 is? That’s funny. I wouldn’t put anything that generates a significant amount of income on ANY single shared hosting account. That includes Dreamhost.
But most people with web sites aren’t in that category.
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