Reminder: Network maintenance tomorrow night! (Updated)

http://www.dreamhoststatus.com/2008/06/18/network-outage-july-11/

This is a reminder about the network maintenance we will be performing July 11, 2008 starting at 10pm Pacific time. All of DreamHost will be inaccessible during this downtime, including email, websites, jabber, streaming, mysql, etc. No data will be lost during this time, and email will be deferred until the network is back online and delivered over the course of the night by the sending servers.

Update 7/12/08 12:32am PDT:
The network was back up briefly before being taken down by an unexpected hardware fault on one of the central routers. It’s currently coming back up and with any luck, things will be returning to normal shortly.

Update 7/12/08 2:58am PDT:
Everything’s been back up for a while now and we’ve been monitoring everything very closely. From what we can tell, the previous issues are all gone and everything’s running smoothly. We’ll continue to monitor the network very closely over the next 24 hours to be absolutely certain no strangeness pops up.

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92 Responses to “Reminder: Network maintenance tomorrow night! (Updated)”

  1. Barry Wood Says:

    *whine* *cry* *bitch* *complain* …ad naseum…

    What!!! My (business/clients/life) will be ruined!!!

    Now that the obligatory rant is posted, thanks for the heads up. Any idea of the potential duration of the outage?

  2. Daniel Says:

    Don’t forget the ever popular…

    “Other hosts don’t have this happen to them”

  3. Paul William Tenny Says:

    It would have been nice if there was something sitting in front of this router that could serve up a page telling people (web visitors) what’s going on instead of just darkening the entire network and having people try to load sites and get timeouts (or worse.)

    Just sayin..

  4. Arron Says:

    I don’t mind being down, but it would be nice if you guys served up a default page such as, “The Service that hosts this website will be down for X-Y-Z.”

    Is that possible?

  5. zach Says:

    Arron: Yes but it would require you redo all the apache configs.

  6. Nyhm Says:

    @Paul,Arron - I agree. A simple “Temporary Downtime for Service Updates, Please Try Back Soon” message would go a long way to let visitors know it’s intentional (and even a positive, if spun well). Nonetheless, I’m grateful for the early warning.

  7. Matt Nordhoff Says:

    Aww, shucks. I was going to use this as an excuse to move my mail hosting elsewhere but I never got around to it.

    Anyway, good luck, and I hope you’re able to keep the downtime to a minimum. :)

    (PS: Could you prioritize the spunky mail servers? :P )

  8. Nathan Bowers Says:

    Why isn’t there a customer wide email to announce planned outages? Or unplanned outages for that matter. Yeah yeah, RSS for dreamhoststatus.com, blah blah. I don’t want or need to have to read every post here, I just want what affects me.

  9. nicole Says:

    any chance you will also take advantage of the previously schedule downtime to take care of that tiny little dns vulnerability announced this week?

  10. Matt Nordhoff Says:

    @nicole:

    AFAIK, DreamHost’s caching DNS servers use djbdns and the authoritative servers use PowerDNS, both of which have been “fixed” for years.

    The other servers might have vulnerable clients, of course..

    Anyway, the only full solution to this is DNSSEC. The recent improvements only make it more difficult.

  11. Markul Says:

    Whats the estimated downtime? Can’t schedule downtime and not estimate for how long….

  12. Anon Says:

    Downtime estimated at 30mins in original notification.

  13. Sharon McCormick Says:

    I wish you good luck!!! Go DH!!

  14. B Larson Says:

    hmmm. it says this will happen tonight…but my email is down right now ( has been since last night) Is this a related problem, or something new?

    help?

  15. Palacio Del MAr Says:

    Ah… thank god they post a reminder… need to get my Pay Per Clicks paused for tonight.

  16. Palacio Del Mar Says:

    BTW, is Dreamhoststatus.com going to be down to? It was my understanding that this page was inside DH’s network, right?

  17. Dave Says:

    No, dreamhoststatus.com is on another network, so that when Dreamhost’s network is down, users can still get status updates…. :-)

  18. Matt Nordhoff Says:

    Comments on the other post said that ns2 is on the same network as the status page, so DNS hosting won’t be totally down either.

  19. Lemuel Pew Says:

    Yeah, some email notifications for known downtimes would be nice. I had to have a reader of my website notify me we were down, then come here just now for the scoop.

  20. Luiz F. G. Deitos Says:

    AHHHHHHH PORCO DIOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
    TA TUDO FUDIDO NESSA PORAA Q BOSTA!

  21. Elliot Says:

    I hate DreamHost

  22. Tim Says:

    Still down

  23. chris Says:

    oh noo….down again

  24. Dreamhost sucks so bad!! Says:

    Thanks for that, Barry. Sometimes I wonder if the people who always seem to post the first few comments complaining about people complaining are really just DreamHost employees trying to make themselves feel better about how much they suck.

    And, for the record, I’d thought I’d check out your website that you posted there … only it’s obviously hosted on DreamHost, as I could not access it. Good luck with that.

  25. Eric Says:

    Yep, email would be very appreciated. Please consider emailing clients when there is a planned outage. Just makes sense. Push instead of pull.

  26. Elliot Says:

    C’mon DreamHost, we’re sitting here dead. Send us an email warning next time.

  27. Elliot Says:

    I’m paying a ridiculously high price for a DH Private Server, too. It sucks

  28. MK☆ Says:

    So, I guess it’s finally time to get some sleep, then? ;D

  29. Alfredo Says:

    Agree with Nathan and Lemuel. Turns out I hadn’t been mantaining one of my sites and decided to upgrade wordress and suddenly I get timeouts. I completely understand and think its great they apply the fixes, no problem with the date really or time… just that an e-mail would have been nice (since it has taken down all servers).

    Oh well… gotta bookmark this RSS feed and learn about every outage affecting me or not (whine whine, cry cry, etc.).

    Still, keep up the great work guys!

  30. Xkeeper Says:

    I guess all of you idiots missed the whole “Get status updates that only affect you!” thing in the panel, eh?

    Oh well. The commenters here are usually morons anyway…

    By the way, I use Dreamhost (have for 8 months) and it hiccups and burps a few times, sure; but it’s $10 hosting. It’s cheap and affordable for what it is. (Also, my server’s back up.)

  31. Matt Says:

    It’s not so bad. Despite the occasional upgrade or fix, uptime is 99.9%.
    Try living in Africa for a few weeks. You’ll realize that 99.9 is pretty good.

  32. Cailin Coilleach Says:

    Hey MK☆! *waves*

    Nice to see a fellow dutchy and friend over here :D Guess we’re stuck in the same boat, because things are still down. I guess I might as well go do some groceries.

  33. DJ Allyn Says:

    Wonderful. Here I went for the past 26 minutes wondering what the hell is going on. All I knew is that all of my sites shut down without warning and dreamhost went completely dark.

    Way to let a customer know.

    It isn’t as if you idiots don’t have my email address. You send me that monthly dreamhost newsletter. Don’t you think you could have sent a warning to all of us to let us know you were doing this?

    Sure, I could have come here every three or four hours to see if you are planning on shutting our service down, but I am too busy working on my own site.

    I am glad you are doing maintenance — JUST EMAIL US AHEAD OF TIME AND TELL US!

  34. Emisand Says:

    I hope you can fix this soon.
    I understand this takes a lot of work, I also have only one server and it requires maintainance frequently.
    Good Luck

  35. Xkeeper Says:

    Allyn: They gave a months worth of notice (give or take a few days). Hardly once “every four hours”… and even then they recommend adding it to an RSS reader.

    It really isn’t that hard.

  36. Bucko Says:

    @DJ Allyn

    Your site is down.

    I was going to go there and spend $hundreds. When will it be up? Please, hurry, I need to spend all my money right now on what you’re selling there.

  37. AJ Says:

    It would have been nice to know of the planned downtime thru an email notice before it happened.

    But at least this is a planned downtime compared to something wrong happening.

  38. AG Says:

    You should *seriously* consider letting people know about a planned maintenance.

    My site is still down. Any ETA?

  39. okay Says:

    how much longer?

  40. Bucko Says:

    AG: My site is still down. Any ETA?

    They initially stated 30 minutes when they first announced this downtime.

    http://www.dreamhoststatus.com/2008/06/18/network-outage-july-11/

  41. Nocoo Says:

    My site works fine, why?

  42. okay Says:

    AG: My site is still down. Any ETA?

    They initially stated 30 minutes when they first announced this downtime.

    http://www.dreamhoststatus.com/2008/06/18/network-outage-july-11/

    Then it’ll be an hour and a half.

  43. Jeremy Says:

    I was going to update my resume, but I suppose I now have a good reason to go finish this new David Sedaris book!

  44. Renegade Says:

    Damn, I donno what to do in this free time, thinking of patching up with my parents. Lemme give a call back to my gf and apologize for everything.

  45. Bucko Says:

    I was going to update my resume, but I suppose I now have a good reason to go finish this new David Sedaris book!

    Good for you. Too many people become engulfed in flames waiting for their site to come back up.

  46. Alex Says:

    “Thanks”

  47. Bucko Says:

    “You’re welcome.”

  48. Jeremy Couch Says:

    Hmmm… was wondering what was going on. Not upset, but would 2nd the suggestion for an email in these situations. It’s just good customer service to do that. Got the feed for this now.

  49. Baris Unver Says:

    I’m down, is it related to this maintenance?

  50. sha Says:

    let me guess, dreamhost runs the iphone activation servers too!

  51. cityhuntr Says:

    Luiz F. G. Deitos, you are a hilarious man and I love you.

  52. Renegade Says:

    Cityhunter
    Why don’t you translate what Luiz said in English for us?

  53. Brutus Says:

    “On July 11, 2008 starting at 10pm we will have a brief network outage to restructure our routing tables. We are planning two hours to deal with any quirks that may come up, however our Cisco network engineer estimates the total downtime to be under 30 minutes.”

    An hour and five later and still no service.

    C’mon guys, Extract the digit please. It’s not 11pm at night for all your customers.

  54. Spencer Says:

    Its back up.

  55. Nocoo Says:

    Yeah. It’s 14:13.

  56. ebuyerfb Says:

    It was funny because I was just trying to read a friend’s blog and it didn’t work. I then realized they probably use DreamHost and it turns out I’m right.

  57. Jennifer Lynn Says:

    Hah, I’ve been receiving over 4k+ traffic spike from an article that got stumbledupon and then .. splat!

  58. Renegade Says:

    My site is still not working.

  59. Renegade Says:

    Bad luck Jennifer!

  60. DL Says:

    well i dont care what anyone else says… i think dreamhost f’n rocks… i rarely have issues and the services are outstanding.

    i knew about this outage a a while back.. and i made the proper preperations.

    thank you dreamhost and keep up the good work!

  61. Rhiannon Says:

    How long will this go on for?!?

  62. thx DH Says:

    thx!!! DH Staff

  63. Rhiannon Says:

    My site’s still not working. Mine seems to be the only one…

  64. Baris Unver Says:

    Mine’s back, too.

  65. Bobaganoosh Says:

    My site’s back up, :)

  66. Jeremy Couch Says:

    Was up for 90 minutes and now back down.

  67. Renegade Says:

    Now this is pissing!

    Its DOWN!

  68. Wes Mahler Says:

    Yes more downtime!

  69. Renegade Says:

    now Database servers are down.

  70. Jeremy Couch Says:

    And it’s back! Only down a few minutes that I know of this time but could have been as much as 30 or so.

  71. Rhiannon Says:

    Mine’s been down for over two hours straight :(

  72. Raul Says:

    My site is down since two hours ago, it is not resolved yet??

  73. Rhiannon Says:

    Thanks for the update DH - much appreciated. Looking forward to seeing my site online again :)

  74. Leefe Says:

    My sites seem to be back up, but the panel is down. :(
    And I was going to sign up a friend, but the signup section is down.
    More funny though is the time the signup site will be down:

    Centralized DreamHost Services Are Down for Maintenance From Wednesday, August 15 2007 10:00pm until Thursday, August 16 2007 1:00am PDT (GMT -7)
    (Total downtime within that window is likely 60 minutes)

    That was a year ago, and still isn’t back up. Bit longer than 60 minutes I think :)

  75. Alex Says:

    My site is not down. My database is not down. Actually it’s a little faster than normal. Oh how I love Kroner, and have done for years.

  76. Jessica Says:

    I think it’s just different servers not working at the moment. One of my sites seem to be dragging a bit and my webmail won’t work.

  77. Rhiannon Says:

    My site’s up, finally! Woot! Thanks Dreamhost :)

  78. zylox Says:

    For all those people requesting E-Mail notifications: Just think about the number of customers DH has, probably something like 200.000 ? Then think about the time the mail server would need to send those messages. It would take longer to send all those messages than to fix the issue. But please, don’t stop requesting E-Mail notifications, you’re funny.

  79. Jimmy Says:

    when the work can be done?

    I need accurate info.

    It was told 2am 12/07/08, now it is 2:31am still not working. What’s up?

  80. Jimmy Says:

    do not sleep IT guys, it was daytime and peak hour for my web.

  81. miguel Says:

    i second the suggestion about emailing clients about such major events well in advance!

    it’s not like we come here every day to check on stuff beforehand. i normally only check here after being affected by some problem..

  82. Liss Says:

    Agree, an e-mail from Dreamhost wold be helpful in this case, I guess that would be a relief for the support team too.. plus a “down for maintainance” message to visitors.

  83. Dilz Says:

    Not yet problem resolved ???????????????????????

    got my site down for last 3 hrs….

    when it will resume !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  84. Liss Says:

    It is still not working!!!! When I manage to log (usually it times out) to my admin panel it looks like a mess! (just like yesterday)

  85. sulis Says:

    same here….. still freezing.

  86. Ben Says:

    Perhaps part of your message yesterday needed to be a reminder that you informed us of this (upcoming) outage like three weeks ago, responding to much feedback about needing warning of such activity (or lack thereof). Thanks! My only failure was in regard to the time zone of it all.

  87. Nagy Erzsebet Says:

    All our sites are still down. Now for almost 6 hours. So the problem isn’t solved.
    We pay both for VPS and mysql server and this affect us.

  88. anon Says:

    Sites are up but something has changed with the Apache settings and one of domains without an htaccess file won’t show index.html as the home page. The directory listing comes up instead.

  89. Chris Says:

    “zylox Says:
    July 12th, 2008 at 2:17 am

    For all those people requesting E-Mail notifications: Just think about the number of customers DH has, probably something like 200.000 ? Then think about the time the mail server would need to send those messages. It would take longer to send all those messages than to fix the issue. But please, don’t stop requesting E-Mail notifications, you’re funny.”

    Hey Zylox - an email IN ADVANCE is what was required. I suppose you opt not to receive one of Josh’s newsletters that’s dispatched without problem every month by the hundreds of thousands because you want to save an electron tree? Idiot.

  90. Rhiannon Says:

    My site’s down again.

  91. Chris Says:

    Down again too. Cheap or not - if it doesn’t work it’s hard to justify the TIME spent in getting these sites up and running, let alone the immediate cost. I’ve spent hundreds of hours here toiling away getting six non-profit organisations sites up for people (hence them wanting to host here) and I then have to defend my choice to put them here. Hmmm… I’ve had no problems for four years and now I have a very slow and unreliable server I’m plonked on - Electra. Are support getting time to read support requests through the normal channels? I’ve told tham my sites were down hours ago and no response. This issue says “closed”. Closed it aint!

  92. mousse Says:

    For people asking email about outages… Why can’t you use a program like Newzie or other “client-side” RSS reader? It checks your RSS feeds and give a popup when something changes.

    You have the same “user experience” that you get with email. There’s also a RSS reader built-in in Thunderbird..

    And… before getting DH account I was on an italian hosting: got outages and no way to get informed on what’s going on..

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